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Old 18th August 2008, 16:06
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Post The Lessons of a Lifetime

Subject:The Lessons of a Lifetime
By: Theodore Butler

Overview: In order to understand where you may be going, it is important to understand where you have been. Nowhere is this more true than in silver. The historic price sell-off, coupled with the obvious shortages in almost all forms of retail physical silver present the lessons of a lifetime. I believe that how we learn from this lesson will determine our future financial situation, good or bad.

Link: http://news.silverseek.com/TedButler/1219089988.php
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Old 18th August 2008, 20:13
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Default DoctorSilver's 2-Step Silver Squeeze

Recent articles by Butler, Bond, Hommel and others speak of silver price manipulation and even calls for buying physical silver to squeeze shorts and make price zoom upward.

Well, boys and girls, DoctorSilver has decided that we have plenty of talk, that it is time to *do the squeeze*. DoctorSilver will do a two-step process: (1) identify big new buyers and (2) trigger the squeeze at a particular time.

1. GATHER A LIST OF PHYSICAL SILVER BUYERS

This list will consist of names and emails of potential buyers, each specifying (a) vehicle (near-month COMEX silver longs taking physical delivery; ETF shares such as SLV; and other) and (b) amount (number of contracts, shares, onces. etc).

This list would ideally consist of, but not be limited to, entities with large cash positions -- e.g., soveriegn funds, wealthy individuals, businesses, etc.

DoctorSilver will reserve the right to communicate with potential buyers as might be needed to determine the validity of their intent to participate as well as to contact potential squeeze participants.

Since we are dealing with certain market mechanisms (e.g., time needed for the near COMEX contract to expire and take delivery), squeeze participants will also commit to holding their physical silver/shares/contracts for a minimum time (on the order of a month or two at least) to be specified when the squeeze is triggered (step 2 below).

Potential buyers should now email the above information to doctorelectron@cwdom.dm with Subject "SILVER SQUEEZE".

2. TRIGGER SILVER SQUEEZE

When the time is "right" -- enough physical buyers queued and hopefully a generous price dip (like *right now*), DoctorSilver will trigger the squeeze via email or other appropriate communication hours before the buy-time. Squeeze participants in #1 above will get this advance notice. After the buy-time, the public will be informed the squeeze is on -- a point that would no doubt already be reflected in price increases from DoctorSilver's squeeze participants.

SUMMARY: Articles calling for justice in silver pricing have done what they can do. DoctorSilver will put the "icing on the cake" (huge profits for squeeze participants) by actually doing the squeeze.

Cordially, DoctorSilver

P.S. Hey, shouldn't the upcoming silver squeeze be an Article here?
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Old 18th August 2008, 20:25
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I have a question for anyone including the author:

In the last 30 years or so, has there ever been a retail shortage of silver or gold similar to the one we are experiencing now? And if so, was there an identifiable cause?
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Old 18th August 2008, 20:34
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I have a question... where exactly is this shortage?

I have visited several websites and seen no signs of shortage. Plenty of dealers out there willing to sell me silver.
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Old 18th August 2008, 20:49
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Default Where???

Just where can one get a million dollars in silver? Delivered in a timely fashion, at a reasonable premium on spot???
Jason Hommel wants to know. He has cash buyers. Lots of them.
A few thousand ounces doesn't make a cornicopia of silver. And it certainly does not disprove a shortage.
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I have a question... where exactly is this shortage?

I have visited several websites and seen no signs of shortage. Plenty of dealers out there willing to sell me silver.
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Last edited by JesterJay : 18th August 2008 at 20:51. Reason: Had to toss in Jason H on my typogram.
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Old 18th August 2008, 21:07
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Just where can one get a million dollars in silver? Delivered in a timely fashion, at a reasonable premium on spot???
Jason Hommel wants to know. He has cash buyers. Lots of them.
A few thousand ounces doesn't make a cornicopia of silver. And it certainly does not disprove a shortage.
JesterJay
I don't have to disprove anything, people making claims of a shortage when prices are falling are the ones that have to prove something.

I don't have a million dollars, quite a poor guy here but when I need to buy a few ounces of silver I can buy them so I see nothing wrong with it. ETFs seem able to buy and store some large amounts of silver without much complaining and members of the LBM have dismissed these claims and say that they are willing to sell large amounts of silver. I can't make them put their silver where their mouth is nor do I have that intention however if there are so many buyers it makes no sense for prices to fall.

Maybe instead of a vast conspiracy there just isn't that many buyers anymore?
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Old 18th August 2008, 21:17
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Default Ah...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha hahahahahahahahahaha.
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA.
I can't breathe.

You're Nadler aren't you?!

The question remains:
Where can one find $1,000,000 in silver anywhere near spot?
Have you read ANY of the websites? 8 weeks wait, Silver out of stock. Premiums of multi-dollars on top of spot for generic silver and NO Eagles.... On and On.
Gee, where IS the shortage.
EVERYWHERE.
Back up your contentions or stow it.
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I don't have to disprove anything, people making claims of a shortage when prices are falling are the ones that have to prove something.

I don't have a million dollars, quite a poor guy here but when I need to buy a few ounces of silver I can buy them so I see nothing wrong with it. ETFs seem able to buy and store some large amounts of silver without much complaining and members of the LBM have dismissed these claims and say that they are willing to sell large amounts of silver. I can't make them put their silver where their mouth is nor do I have that intention however if there are so many buyers it makes no sense for prices to fall.

Maybe instead of a vast conspiracy there just isn't that many buyers anymore?
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Last edited by JesterJay : 18th August 2008 at 21:23. Reason: I LOVE it when Nadler gets drunk and tries to post here.
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Old 18th August 2008, 22:07
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha hahahahahahahahahaha.
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA.
I can't breathe.

You're Nadler aren't you?!

The question remains:
Where can one find $1,000,000 in silver anywhere near spot?
Have you read ANY of the websites? 8 weeks wait, Silver out of stock. Premiums of multi-dollars on top of spot for generic silver and NO Eagles.... On and On.
Gee, where IS the shortage.
EVERYWHERE.
Back up your contentions or stow it.
JesterJay
Strange world you run here where one invents theorys and then it is up to the others to disprove them. I could tell you that I am Jesus reborn and that is up to you to disprove that ... what kind of silly discussion would that be?

As for 8 weeks wait I got my last order in 4 business days, maybe you need to find a better dealer, one that actualy cares in keeping up with stock.

As for Eagles, you do know that there is a world outside the USA? Just north of you there are some guys with a funny name... I heard in a very obscure site that they had *gasp* silver... and they made (guess...) coins out of it and they called it Maple Leafs.

Oh the terror of not finding silver... and all I had to do was cross a border to find it.
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Old 18th August 2008, 23:13
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Default You're missing Jesters point...

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I could tell you that I am Jesus reborn and that is up to you to disprove that ... what kind of silly discussion would that be?

Jester wouldn't have to disprove that... many Bible passages already do. Bad example....

Anyone can go and pick up a chunk of Silver right now, STILL, with no problem, but the problem remains... where do you get A LOT of Silver, and you can't. If I had any money left, I could order 2000 Maples with no issue, and get them in 10 days flat. 2000 Maples isn't going to affect the market in any way. What Jester is talking about is people like Jason Hommel, who is in the process of doubling his holdings of physical Silver. Please show me where Mr. Hommel can get 200,000 ounces of PHYSICAL Silver right now? There are other investors looking for 10-20 thousand ounces as well!

Tulving? They have SOME Silver panda's for +$5.69 over spot!
Apmex? Aside from selling 8500+ ounces in 18 hours this weekend, they have Australian coins (about 3000) a handful of bars and 100 ounce JM bars on backorder (only 23 pre-orders left A.K.A 2300 ounces).

The fact of the matter is we small-time accumilators will be able to aquire CERTAIN Silver bullion for the time being but there isn't enough to meet demand. JM is behind. US Mint is behind. Demand IS stripping the supply down.

If we had a $1,000,000 we would have difficulty finding enough.. Plain & Simple

...oh and just because the price is falling doesn't mean that demand is down. As mentioned above, when a site sells over 8500 coins in less than a day, that sounds like one hell of a demand to me.... don't believe it just because it's economics 101.

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Old 18th August 2008, 23:55
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Default Didn't think I had to break out the crayons and the wide-lined paper.

Thanks for the backup Phaeton.
You are right on my point.
I didn't think I had to say the same thing more than once and in more than 50 words.
But you did very well. I will try again in fewer words:

The very lack of silver available, AT THE GIVEN SPOT PRICE, is proof in and of itself of a SHORTAGE.

Especially if you have to wait 8 weeks for delivery.
If he still doesn't get it?
Then sorry for being unclear,
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Jester wouldn't have to disprove that... many Bible passages already do. Bad example....

Anyone can go and pick up a chunk of Silver right now, STILL, with no problem, but the problem remains... where do you get A LOT of Silver, and you can't. If I had any money left, I could order 2000 Maples with no issue, and get them in 10 days flat. 2000 Maples isn't going to affect the market in any way. What Jester is talking about is people like Jason Hommel, who is in the process of doubling his holdings of physical Silver. Please show me where Mr. Hommel can get 200,000 ounces of PHYSICAL Silver right now? There are other investors looking for 10-20 thousand ounces as well!

Tulving? They have SOME Silver panda's for +$5.69 over spot!
Apmex? Aside from selling 8500+ ounces in 18 hours this weekend, they have Australian coins (about 3000) a handful of bars and 100 ounce JM bars on backorder (only 23 pre-orders left A.K.A 2300 ounces).

The fact of the matter is we small-time accumilators will be able to aquire CERTAIN Silver bullion for the time being but there isn't enough to meet demand. JM is behind. US Mint is behind. Demand IS stripping the supply down.

If we had a $1,000,000 we would have difficulty finding enough.. Plain & Simple

...oh and just because the price is falling doesn't mean that demand is down. As mentioned above, when a site sells over 8500 coins in less than a day, that sounds like one hell of a demand to me.... don't believe it just because it's economics 101.
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