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    Cool Now is the time to send the paper silver price to ZERO!!!

    Any normal non-kabbal connected person that is playing the silver futures market long, if there is any way for you to cash out, do so.
    All that your going long does is to feed the financial controllers as they create money out of thin arseholes, and then go short to cancel your long buy.

    If you can not cash out your long position, then if you can, short this mother.
    Especially if you hold real precious.
    There is strength in numbers, and judo has worked for centuries.

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    Wonderful plan, just great!!!

    I only have a couple questions

    1. why would any investor not take advantage of the spot price dipping lower and lower in any Silver market, Paper or Physical and the COMEX is a Physical market as well as paper market?

    2. why would the manufactures from around the world not jump on a lower than normal spot price versus continue to buy from the miners directly if the COMEX and LBMA were actually selling it cheaper?

    3. who in their right mind is going to sell their long contract at ever greater losses just to fill your desires and drive themselves bankrupt in the process? This isn't a religious war where your asking them to feed themselves to the lions versus submit to any further a$$ kicking that they have entered into of their own choice.

    4. Your forgetting one minor step in the process and that is the Broker has to make sure each investor has sufficient funds in his account to cover any losses as the market changes and a sinking spot price would rapidly force most of them out along with their investment money. Who has the capital to keep funding an account to ride it to the bottom and that would require them to own all of the Long contracts to begin with if they wanted to control the market.

    5. How are you going to convince the Commercial investors to intentionally sell their long contracts at a loss when they hold one third of all Long contracts and you can't force a Long contract holder to close his contract just because you want to and which Silver Short on the non-commercial side is willing to cough up his Silver for peanuts to go along with this plan. It's one thing to settle in cash, but when your forfeiting your stash of Silver for a cause.

    The one thing I can say about your proposal, all Short contract holders would absolutely love it no matter if they are Small, Large or Commercial investors. As well as new Long contract buyers and any one else purchasing physical Silver on any market, which means it won't work unless everyone is willing to go along with the idea and that will never happen for any cause..........

    And don't forget, the large and small investors at times hold more Short contracts than the Commercial side, so that hasn't been the answer either..

    I won't say it's the craziest idea I've heard in the past 20 years, I'm sure I've forgotten about a few others. In fact I'll give your shot at $3,100 Silver a better chance at becoming reality first, with hyperinflation, who knows...

    But I'd love to hear more about how you think you can convince all these people to give up their fortunes, along with the commercial investors and also convince everyone else on the planet to not take advantage of the lower spot prices.

    Keep in mind people come out of the woodwork to buy Silver when they hear it's a steal and this would be a real steal..
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    Cool Virtual is not real, but it will take a hard slap to convince the youth of that.

    Paper silver is not real either, and it'll take a hard slap to convince greedy old men.

    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post
    Wonderful plan, just great!!!

    I only have a couple questions

    1. why would any investor not take advantage of the spot price dipping lower and lower in any Silver market, Paper or Physical and the COMEX is a Physical market as well as paper market?

    2. why would the manufactures from around the world not jump on a lower than normal spot price versus continue to buy from the miners directly if the COMEX and LBMA were actually selling it cheaper?

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    Keep in mind people come out of the woodwork to buy Silver when they hear it's a steal and this would be a real steal..
    Because premiums would keep the physical price around the high teens at a minimum, likely the detachment would be much greater.

    I would cover the short around $4 but not go long paper,
    then take the profits (don't object to the high premiums, just) buy real silver with both hands.

    Silver to Bitcoin ratio is 248
    Gold to Bitcoin ratio is 3.24


    It is amazing that virtual coins are worth that much more than real ones. Unreal.

    I believe that after a while, a Bitcoin will be worth an infinite number of Federal Reserve Note dollars, while at the same time a troy ounce of silver will purchase multiple Bitcoins.

    Last October the traitor puppet Obama gave away the internet to the globalists, so it is likely owned by Rothschild.

    Not only is Bitcoin 100% dependent on the internet, but it is 99.9% vulnerable to instant vaporization.

    I can imagine that the wrong people will be owning a lot of expensive Bitcoin, and then the kabbal unleashes their hack which corrupts the Bitcoin blockchain.
    Only a fool would believe that the block chain can't be corrupted, yet that is exactly what Bitcoin holders depend on.

    As a multi decade computer programming electrical engineer, I have a little insight, and keep up with these things.
    The key to the Bitcoin "security" is the encryption, which has been broken, but TPTB is hiding that information.

    Here is the "white paper" on breaking RSA encryption, complex methods based on the amazing discovery of Professor Jim McCanney (much like Tesla, another TPTB suppressed person) on generating prime numbers.
    http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/Brea...2003062014.pdf
    Bitcoin will be good until it's not, then it's use as money will be forever remembered in the same sense as tulips.

    Hold Silvercoin or forever hold your peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverheartbone View Post
    Paper silver is not real either, and it'll take a hard slap to convince greedy old men.

    I'm afraid there are men and women of all ages gambling at that casino, not just a bunch of old men as you seem to visualize them.




    Quote Originally Posted by silverheartbone View Post
    Because premiums would keep the physical price around the high teens at a minimum, likely the detachment would be much greater.
    Oh how often will you people repeat the same tired old theory that has never panned out. The dealers will always try and robbed us just like any other thief in the night whenever they get the chance, but that does not mean than can get away with it as you seem to believe. Why would anyone pay a dealer $19 for an ounce of Silver that they are only paying $9 or less for? Some poor fools will do this for an ASE because they don't know any better, but that has been the exception rather than the rule. Generic Silver has always stayed fairly close to the spot price. Yes it has jumped up to as much as $1.50 - $2.00 per ounce at some dealers, but it was lower at others that were not trying to gouge their clients, but that's a far cry from paying $19 for a single digit priced once of Silver. Anyone with an ounce of common sense and more than a few Dollars to invest can purchase a thousand ounce brick and hold it until they can get a mint like Golden State Mint to convert their bar(s) into whatever size silver they want for a standard fee. This so called upcharge premium when the spot price drops below a certain level was predicted by some to take place a couple years ago if it ever dipped below $15 per ounce, didn't happen and it really marginally happened back in 2008 during the so called retail shortage. No shortage, only at certain dealers and the increased premiums were not that bad at most if at all. You just had to know where to shop at the time.



    Quote Originally Posted by silverheartbone View Post
    I believe that after a while, a Bitcoin will be worth an infinite number of Federal Reserve Note dollars, while at the same time a troy ounce of silver will purchase multiple Bitcoins.

    Not only is Bitcoin 100% dependent on the internet, but it is 99.9% vulnerable to instant vaporization.

    Bitcoin will be good until it's not, then it's use as money will be forever remembered in the same sense as tulips.

    I can imagine that the wrong people will be owning a lot of expensive Bitcoin, and then the kabbal unleashes their hack which corrupts the Bitcoin blockchain.
    Only a fool would believe that the block chain can't be corrupted, yet that is exactly what Bitcoin holders depend on
    .

    Well at least we share the common belief as to the end result for BitCoin. For me it's either the NSA pulling the trigger on their system or the congress along with other countries making them illegal to own and trade in the US and other countries, which would pretty much put a nail in their coffin.

    If the NSA does it there will be blame passed around and fingers pointed. If the governments outlaw it, then it's a legal matter for whatever justification they can come up with. Money laundering probably being the number one reason on their excuse list.

    On the other hand, I can't see BitCoin being worth an infinite number of our Dollars, which would have to require some Zimbabwe type of hyperinflation and Silver could actually be worth several Bitcoins only if the Dollar has hyperinflated and BitCoin has been under constant downward pressure on its' way out.

    Your sure betting on a lot of different scenarios taking place to push Silver into the limelight and it still might not happen or it might happen in spite of these other things not taking place.

    I hate to wish bad luck on BitCoin investors, but I do wish it would collapse one way or the other so we can hopefully put these ideas of a digital currency to bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post
    Oh how often will you people repeat the same tired old theory that has never panned out. The dealers will always try and robbed us just like any other thief in the night whenever they get the chance, but that does not mean than can get away with it as you seem to believe. Why would anyone pay a dealer $19 for an ounce of Silver that they are only paying $9 or less for? Some poor fools will do this for an ASE because they don't know any better, but that has been the exception rather than the rule. Generic Silver has always stayed fairly close to the spot price. Yes it has jumped up to as much as $1.50 - $2.00 per ounce at some dealers, but it was lower at others that were not trying to gouge their clients, but that's a far cry from paying $19 for a single digit priced once of Silver. Anyone with an ounce of common sense and more than a few Dollars to invest can purchase a thousand ounce brick and hold it until they can get a mint like Golden State Mint to convert their bar(s) into whatever size silver they want for a standard fee. This so called upcharge premium when the spot price drops below a certain level was predicted by some to take place a couple years ago if it ever dipped below $15 per ounce, didn't happen and it really marginally happened back in 2008 during the so called retail shortage. No shortage, only at certain dealers and the increased premiums were not that bad at most if at all. You just had to know where to shop at the time.
    You seem to assume that the miners and refiners are stupidly going to play along with the kabbal casino when they drive the paper price lower.
    You do know that it has become a common occurrence for industrial users to deal directly with the miners and refiners, don't you?
    I wouldn't put it past the larger dealers like APMEX to have some connections and contingency backup plans there as well.


    Well at least we share the common belief as to the end result for BitCoin. For me it's either the NSA pulling the trigger on their system or the congress along with other countries making them illegal to own and trade in the US and other countries, which would pretty much put a nail in their coffin.

    If the NSA does it there will be blame passed around and fingers pointed. If the governments outlaw it, then it's a legal matter for whatever justification they can come up with. Money laundering probably being the number one reason on their excuse list.

    On the other hand, I can't see BitCoin being worth an infinite number of our Dollars, which would have to require some Zimbabwe type of hyperinflation and Silver could actually be worth several Bitcoins only if the Dollar has hyperinflated and BitCoin has been under constant downward pressure on its' way out.

    Your sure betting on a lot of different scenarios taking place to push Silver into the limelight and it still might not happen or it might happen in spite of these other things not taking place.

    I hate to wish bad luck on BitCoin investors, but I do wish it would collapse one way or the other so we can hopefully put these ideas of a digital currency to bed.
    If Bitcoin and the FRN are both zero, then it is possible to do the math.
    3 Giga FRN = 1 Bitcoin
    I'm thinking that just before the Bitcoin trashing, people will wake up to silver and gold.
    However after that blockchain corruption event, the Bitcoin will never convert to precious again.
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    Exclamation The end is near. THE TIME IS NOW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post
    I hate to wish bad luck on BitCoin investors, but I do wish it would collapse one way or the other so we can hopefully put these ideas of a digital currency to bed.
    The Federal Reserve Bank's currency is over 99% digital. In case you want to rethink that last statement.

    If you don't change your stance, then this is one of our few areas of agreement
    U.S. Constitutional currency was the well thought out law created by the nation's founding fathers for many very good reasons.
    Now that the kabbal has subverted America, we need to be strong and cut out the diseased portion of the body politic (Washington DC).
    Of course that ain't going to happen, the best that I can hope for is divine (or I'll take extra-terrestrial) intervention.

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    Inferring "nothing to see here, move along" is much like the "mainstream" media where "no news is good news".

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverheartbone View Post
    You seem to assume that the miners and refiners are stupidly going to play along with the kabbal casino when they drive the paper price lower.
    You do know that it has become a common occurrence for industrial users to deal directly with the miners and refiners, don't you?
    I wouldn't put it past the larger dealers like APMEX to have some connections and contingency backup plans there as well.
    Now your starting to sound like Teddy or your copying some of his ancient scrolls...

    The Paper market sets the selling price for all commodities and that's just the way it is. That doesn't mean the miner or producer of any commodity has to sell his product at those prices, he can always hold them in reserve and hope for more sunny days as Ted always suggested or they can forward sell them at lower prices to guarantee a set price, which was another pet peeve of Teddy's that use to piss him off. Of course miners and refiners do have contracts with manufactures around the world to supply them and I'm sure many of these contracts are at some set prices in advance no matter what the market does. But it's not likely miners or refiners are going to be able to hold back their products to sell for higher prices than what the commodities market calls for. Other than Teddy, who is going to pay more than what they have to for their goods??? You and Teddy are sharing the same wet dream and it's an old soggy one at that.

    Do you believe APMEX is going to make arrangements with some refiner to pay above the going rate for Silver, instead of paying whatever he has to for large Silver bars? Of course APMEX can always try to purchase large Silver bars from a refiner in a crunch if they will make them available. Other dealers that are already buying them such as Golden State Mint and SilverTowne will always be at the head of the pack because they are existing customers, along with some of the other large retail mints. I don't know if the smaller minting operation have that advantage or it they have to make their purchases directly off the COMEX, I know some of them do, but how many is another thing.

    One thing is for certain, none of these minting operations is going to pay more to buy them directly from some place else because they don't like the lower prices on the COMEX. Retail Silver is a dog eat dog world out here just like any other business and me thinks you'll be hard pressed to find anyone willing to go along with the two of you.

    That's like saying you would buy all your ASE's from APMEX with a $10 premium just because and not from another dealer that is only charging $2.50 each, with no other reason than the $2.50 ASE's were made from Silver purchased off the COMEX.

    You know APMEX is paying the same price for his ASE's but it's a principal to you and you don't care that they are ripping you off for the extra $7.50 each.

    Plus you can forget about these below the cost of production, they will produce and sell below, will just shut down operation for awhile or go out of business just like everyone else.

    The only likely source of any rip off will be from our friendly dealers charging whatever they believe they can get away with because of supply and demand. They will of course scream at the top of their lung about any Silver shortage to make it ten times worse than it really is to create an the illusion that the public needs to jump on and that's always their ticket to a great scalping.




    Quote Originally Posted by silverheartbone View Post
    If Bitcoin and the FRN are both zero, then it is possible to do the math.
    3 Giga FRN = 1 Bitcoin
    I'm thinking that just before the Bitcoin trashing, people will wake up to silver and gold.
    However after that blockchain corruption event, the Bitcoin will never convert to precious again.



    Let's see, the Dollar will be worth zero and the people will wake up to the fact Gold and Silver are our only salvation just before BitCoin turns to dust also.

    You believe the government has the ability to turn BitCoin into a virtual nothing, as I do as well, one way or another.

    Yet you discount the possibility that they are not smart enough to trash BitCoin before letting the Dollar take a tumble or putting a stop to the Gold and silver markets in self defense of the Dollar.

    Back to your basic math tutoring, a million times zero is still zero. Only a dreamer can take nothing and turn it into something without doing anything at all.

    Good luck on the FRN turning into Zero, dust or anything else that is worthless short of a total worldwide disaster that makes everything worthless.

    Of course a hydrogen bomb or two over St. Louis would make your Mercury dimes just as valuable as all of my Silver that was melted with one blasted over my head as well.

    Short of any end of the world scenario that drastically reduces our population in a hurry, the Dollar is still going to be our currency in one form or another. It's not going to disappear to make Gold and Silver King and Queen again...

    You are better off buying some scratch off tickets to claim your ticket to fortune instead of hoping for the Dollar and all other currencies to turn to dust so your Silver stack will have some super relevance financially.

    When people talk about dreamers making the world a better place, they are talking about people like Ford, Bell, Einstein and not someone that is just praying for the world to come to a horrific end as we know it for his personal gain, while assuming he'll be a survivor in that aftermath.




    Quote Originally Posted by silverheartbone View Post
    The Federal Reserve Bank's currency is over 99% digital. In case you want to rethink that last statement.


    I have no doubt that is true with all the debt owed other countries, but it's still our currency and the form used to live off.

    While almost everyone is paid by check or direct deposit the cash is still available to each and everyone as long as not everyone tries to take out cash at once.

    There is actually a greater supply of paper money to meet the needs of people wanting cash all over the country and as long as it stays that way, I'll be happy.

    Besides the amount of cash each bank branch has on hand, there are ATM machines everywhere loaded with cash for profit and for servicing their customers, but mainly for profit.

    We are not a cashless society and hopefully a few decades away or at least a couple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post
    Plus you can forget about these below the cost of production, they will produce and sell below, will just shut down operation for awhile or go out of business just like everyone else.
    Methinks that you forgot at least one possibility a strategic mining/refining operation might employ.

    How about produce and stash (until the price corrects)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverheartbone View Post
    Methinks that you forgot at least one possibility a strategic mining/refining operation might employ.

    How about produce and stash (until the price corrects)?


    I'm sorry I didn't repeat this same line 13 lines lower for you again, but here it is one more time.

    "The Paper market sets the selling price for all commodities and that's just the way it is. That doesn't mean the miner or producer of any commodity has to sell his product at those prices, he can always hold them in reserve and hope for more sunny days "

    Me thinks that means the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post

    I'm sorry I didn't repeat this same line 13 lines lower for you again, but here it is one more time.

    "The Paper market sets the selling price for all commodities and that's just the way it is. That doesn't mean the miner or producer of any commodity has to sell his product at those prices, he can always hold them in reserve and hope for more sunny days "

    Me thinks that means the same thing.
    Hey a short and to the point post! Amazing.

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