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Hey Vale, has this brutal silver market taken Tulving out? - Page 3
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    One has to wonder if Tulving won't be back in business sometime later this year. It seems hard to imagine after this, but new investors would find his web site and it is still up and running. You might not be able to contact anyone, but it's out there. Here is the latest and take note that they are referring to a chapter 11 not chapter 7 Bankruptcy.

    March 18, 2014 5:35PM EST
    Still not much news.
    The Tulving Company has agreed to having a Chapter 11 Trustee. There will be a meeting April 15, 2014 at 10:30AM. Of note is that it was signed by Hannes Tulving, Jr. on March 17, so at least his attorney likely knows his whereabouts. The document appears to have been faxed, allowing Hannes to avoid going out in public.
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    Here are the latest postings on Tulving: I just don't know how accurate this information is. The information below about the Secret Service seizing "all" of Tulving's computers could be a problem as his server is still up and running, unless it's actually being hosted on someone else's system and no one cares about those files!!!!

    Tulving Assets Seized by Secret Service
    March 20, 2014 6:30PM EST
    There was a rumor last week that Tulving's assets had been seized by federal authorities.
    Today, bankruptcy paperwork confirms that the Secret Service "seized all of [Tulving's] computers, files, and records", acting on behalf of the U.S. Attorney on or about March 9.

    This is expected to delay the completion of the bankruptcy paperwork by up to 60 days. Importantly, this also means that the bankruptcy court will be operating with the hastily compiled list of just 9 out of the hundreds of Tulving creditors.


    Chapter 11 Trustee Assigned
    March 20, 2014 12:20PM EST
    The U.S. Trustee has assigned R. Todd Neilson to serve as the Chapter 11 trustee for the Tulving bankruptcy.
    R. Todd Neilson has been involved in a number of high-profile bankruptcy cases, and appears to be exactly what creditors of The Tulving Company would want in a trustee. He has extensive forensic accounting experience, which should be very helpful here given the circumstances. Regarding one Chapter 11 bankruptcy case, he stated "All Iím doing here and all I did in the FBI, is try to get to the truth." I like those words.
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    Nothing like potentially being screwed out of thousands of Dollars and having to wait endlessly to find out just how bad it's really going to be.

    Creditor List Deadline Extended
    March 25, 2014 7:25AM EST
    Yesterday, the judge granted Tulving an extension to complete the bankruptcy paperwork (schedules). The new deadline is May 31, 2014.
    Most importantly, this means that it may be more than 2 months until Tulving files the creditor list. This appears to be a very rare extension, and is unforunate as it keeps creditors in limbo (not being able to verify that their name is on the creditor list, which is very important). It will also make some people (e.g. press looking at court documents) continue to think this case is much smaller than it is (it looks like there are 9 creditors owed $1.7M, versus hundreds of creditors owed perhaps as much as $40M). However, given that Tulving's records were seized, the extension was unavoidable (assuming Tulving did not have an off-site backup of his records).

    I expect to send an E-mail by the end of the day going into more detail about the creditor list. The short version is that if you do appear on the creditor list (and agree with the amount, and it is not listed as disputed, unliquidated or contingent), you do not need to send any paperwork to get your share of any money that may be distributed. But if you are on the list, you will need to send paperwork by a to-be-determined deadline (after the creditor list is filed). If you are not on the mailing list, you can sign up below.
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    Here is an interesting twist on things:

    April 2, 2014 7:00AM EST
    Yesterday, the Trial Attorney for the bankruptcy approved a change of the date for the creditor meeting, at the request of the Chapter 11 Trustee. The meeting has been moved to Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at 10:00AM (in Room 1-154 of the Ronald Reagan Federal Courthouse).
    This is both good and bad. The bad part is that it gives Hannes Tulving, Jr. another month to stay in hiding, and delays getting very important questions answered.

    However, given that the creditor list has not been filed yet, this delay was really necessary, as it is the only way to ensure that most or all creditors are aware of the meeting. Presumably, the request for the delay was due to the Trustee believing that the creditor list will be filed before then (in enough time to send notice to all creditors about the meeting).

    All creditors are welcome (and encouraged) to attend the creditor meeting, but have no obligation to. It gives creditors a chance to ask Hannes Tulving, Jr. questions regarding assets, that he must answer under oath (an audio recording of the meeting is made). Creditors may ask questions 'pertaining to assets or any other matter pertinent to the administration of the case.'

    There may be a bit of excitement involved, given that Hannes appears to be in hiding, and will likely be approached by process servers, and perhaps law enforcement due to the criminal investigation
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    Tulving's web page finally went dark today!!

    Will the public ever see the name Tulving on an active PM web page in the future?
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    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post
    Tulving's web page finally went dark today!!

    Will the public ever see the name Tulving on an active PM web page in the future?
    No, probably nowhere but the legal notices section, under "Bankruptcy liquidation".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xizang View Post
    No, probably nowhere but the legal notices section, under "Bankruptcy liquidation".

    Apparently this is the second time around for Tulving, which should be a constant red flag being waved every time someone mentions that name on a forum. That being said, it doesn't mean he can't go down that road one more time.

    Just consider all the stacker's that have no idea about Tulving's current trouble.

    This was posted today: The company still owns the domain name (tulving.com), and has pre-paid through 2020
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    Hannes Tulving has been Served

    April 12, 2014 8:45AM EST

    Hannes Tulving, Jr. has been served in the class action lawsuit against him. The bankruptcy of The Tulving Company put a stay on the class action lawsuit against The Tulving Company, but not against Hannes Tulving, Jr. Hannes Tulving is believed to be in hiding, and therefore could not be served. However, the lawfirm handling the class action lawsuit made a motion for alternate service, which the judge granted. This allowed service by E-mail and regular mail, allowing the lawsuit to proceed.
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    Burning more bridges between silver buyers and their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xizang View Post
    Burning more bridges between silver buyers and their money.

    That's the risk we all face when buying online or coughing up a bundle of cash at you LCS in advance of delivery. Which is what most LCS's require if your buying almost any product in volume.

    That is also the primary reason why I'll never recommend any online dealer that hasn't been in business for many years or is a favorite of our members. The only exception is for small best buy orders where the chances of getting burned is minimal.

    The problems at Tulving would have been identified by our members in the past, but it appears we haven't had any purchasing from him at the 500 ounce level in the past year or so. If we have, they didn't bring their delivery problems to our attention.

    Tulving just goes to prove that Silver pool accounts are not the only place you might lose your A$$.

    Over the years a number of our members have stated they break up their large purchases between two or more dealers to avoid the Tulving experience.
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