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    Quote Originally Posted by Asheron View Post
    During a speech in Madrid, Dominique Strauss-Kahn said that “social unrest may happen in many countries..."
    Ummm....was he foreshadowing/projecting his OWN demise?!? LOL!

    The predictions were correct, unfortunately the people forgot to do something about it!
    Oh wait...they did -- they spent at record-breaking levels during the holidays! LOL!



    p.s. -- OF COURSE this is a copy-paste job!
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    Here we are over three years later and just how many millions are locked away in those FEMA camps now????

    It's been discussed many times before, the generals are in charge of the military, so to speak. But it's really a decision making organization of active and retired generals that will have the final call at their level. They are the command officers corp.

    Then you have the far greater group of officer in the junior officer corp, who would in all likelihood over ride any grossly unpopular decision the command officer would make. The men in uniform report directly to the junior officers and they have far more respect for them than the generals. Besides the men and women in uniform are the ones that are more than likely to revolt against any gross decisions to take actions against their own citizens in general. Knowing that, the junior officer corp would more than likely side with the grunts versus try and force them to do things they don't believe in themselves.

    Far too many people think these decision made in Washington by the president or secretary of defense are carried out at will, without the military leaders standing up to them. Look how many general have been fired since world war II, for standing for what they believed was wrong. They knowingly gave up their careers rather than follow those orders. and that was fighting against foreign enemies. Do you honestly believe our military leaders have no backbone to stand up against the president if he wanted to run roughshod over the country. All they have to do is say NO, we won't do it and there is nothing he can do about it. Even if they were wishy washy about it and were on the fence and decided not the fight the president, they still have to deal with the junior officer corp, who would be far more likely to not go along with the plan and then the generals would be back to square one. They are not idiots and would already know what the junior officers corp positions on the matter would be and that would help or force them to make their stand.

    You don't think the president just decided to go to war in Afghanistan and all the generals said yes sir, we'll jump right on it sir. There had to be strategies agreed to before they ever started a single thing. We never hear about programs that are rejected by the top military leaders, only the ones that are rejected by a single general, when he is fired.

    As far as bringing in the military from Canada, what a joke that would be. That would be like calling up some states national guard. Keep in mind that we only have about 500,000 combat troops in the US military for such action, assuming we brought them back from all points in the world. Throw in another 25k - 50K from Canada and you sure can't call in any help from Mexico. The Mexican military in up to their necks in alligators down there. So assuming all the generals and all the junior officers and all the enlisted men an women would go along with an invasion of the US population. It's still only well under a million, including the Canadians, against 75 million or more well armed and trained in the US civilian population. The numbers just don't add up and neither does the logic of even trying something like this. Maybe in England where the people are unarmed, but not in the third most populated country in the world and with a civilian population that is so well armed and trained.

    In other words, I wasn't buying it back in 2008 and I'm not buying to today either. You can post all the You Tube scare videos you want, but until these FEMA camps start to fill up and the military is called back to the US and the general population in setting on their ass doing noting about it, it's all a bunch of BS!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asheron View Post
    The head of the International Monetary Fund has warned that advanced nations will be hit by violent civil unrest if the elite continue to restructure the economy around their own interests while looting the taxpayer.

    During a speech in Madrid, Dominique Strauss-Kahn said that “social unrest may happen in many countries - including advanced economies” if governments failed to adequately respond to the financial crisis.

    “He added that violent protests could break out in countries worldwide if the financial system was not restructured to benefit everyone rather than a small elite,” reports the Guardian.

    Strauss-Kahn’s comments echo those of others who have cautioned that civil unrest could arise, specifically in the U.S., as a result of the wholesale looting of the taxpayer and the devaluation of the dollar.

    Widely respected trends forecaster Gerald Celente recently told Fox News that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.

    Back in October, Senator Chris Dodd said that revolution would unfold if banks refused to lend money.

    “If it turns out that they are hoarding, you’ll have a revolution on your hands. People will be so livid and furious that their tax money is going to line their pockets instead of doing the right thing. There will be hell to pay,” Dodd told the New York Times.

    Last month, leading economist Nouriel Roubini said that food riots would be the ultimate consequence of the Federal Reserve and the Treasury’s current policies.


    Riots and demonstrations have gripped normally sedate Iceland following a financial catastrophe that has wiped out half of the krona’s value and put one third of the population at risk of losing their homes and life savings.

    Expectations of violent civil unrest have not gone unnoticed by the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Institute, who recently issued a report warning that the United States may experience massive civil unrest in the wake of a series of crises which it terms “strategic shock.”

    The consequence? The necessity to use “military force against hostile groups inside the United States,” according to the report.

    Tens of thousands of active duty military personnel returning from Afghanistan and Iraq are set to conduct “homeland patrols” inside the U.S. and their duties will include tackling “civil unrest and crowd control,” according to a Northcom announcement earlier this year.


    That just goes to show how far from reality this clown is. Um, It's 2012 and I haven't seen any food riots and we are far from an undeveloped nation. The Dollar has not been devalued.

    The clown sounds like a socialist of the worst kind. Restructure the financial system so everyone benefits from it. Yes let's make everyone in the wold a middle class citizen. No that can't work, so I guess he means that we'll all have to be lower class citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post
    That just goes to show how far from reality this clown is. Um, It's 2012 and I haven't seen any food riots and we are far from an undeveloped nation. The Dollar has not been devalued.

    The clown sounds like a socialist of the worst kind. Restructure the financial system so everyone benefits from it. Yes let's make everyone in the wold a middle class citizen. No that can't work, so I guess he means that we'll all have to be lower class citizens.
    ok, explain how this is going to help us?

    Global banking checks to begin early in 2012

    if you really understand how the bankers operate, you will know what Basel III means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billmr View Post
    ok, explain how this is going to help us?

    Global banking checks to begin early in 2012

    if you really understand how the bankers operate, you will know what Basel III means.
    Hmmm...I think this was brought up elsewhere some time ago.

    If you rip apart Basel you will see that none of it is a very big deal to the bankers.
    It effects a minority of their profit potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post
    That just goes to show how far from reality this clown is. Um, It's 2012 and I haven't seen any food riots and we are far from an undeveloped nation. The Dollar has not been devalued.

    The clown sounds like a socialist of the worst kind. Restructure the financial system so everyone benefits from it. Yes let's make everyone in the wold a middle class citizen. No that can't work, so I guess he means that we'll all have to be lower class citizens.
    Your right, but, in a real world scenario the system should have tanked hard in 08', instead we got helicopter Bennie saying he'll print as much worthless ass wipe as he needs. The only thing keeping this game afloat is the peoples "faith" in this fiat currency and a lot of digital dickering. Now, that is slowly fading and the debt levels are at a point of no return. Predictions of "exactly when" are pretty hard to guess when criminals are running the tables and you still have a few chips left in front of you. The more the debt ceiling raises and currency is created the less chips you have in front of you. The American dollar is worthless and its just a matter of time (not long now), especially considering production is ramping down in China, EU is collapsing, more war = billions if not trillions more fiat creation. You'll get your riots, don't you fret............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malus View Post
    Your right, but, in a real world scenario the system should have tanked hard in 08', instead we got helicopter Bennie saying he'll print as much worthless ass wipe as he needs. The only thing keeping this game afloat is the peoples "faith" in this fiat currency and a lot of digital dickering. Now, that is slowly fading and the debt levels are at a point of no return. Predictions of "exactly when" are pretty hard to guess when criminals are running the tables and you still have a few chips left in front of you. The more the debt ceiling raises and currency is created the less chips you have in front of you. The American dollar is worthless and its just a matter of time (not long now), especially considering production is ramping down in China, EU is collapsing, more war = billions if not trillions more fiat creation. You'll get your riots, don't you fret............

    According to your logic, Silver must be worthless also. Since anyone can trade those so called worthless Dollars for apparently worthless Silver. Or could it be that the Dollar is just worthless in your mind and not in reality? When the day comes that you can no longer walk into a grocery store and trade those worthless Dollars for food, then the Dollar will be worthless and not before.

    Funny thing about history, it keeps repeating itself. Some how we never stop finding reasons to kill each other and there will in all likelihood be a never ending line of people starving to death. The only thing that changes is, who's on top and who's on the bottom as the history deck is reshuffled in time!!!

    Just because there are wars, rioting and starvation, does not mean it "will" be happening right here in the US. Since we are the bread basket of the world, can you imagine what it will be like most everywhere else before it gets bad here, if it does at all?

    Do you envision 300 million American's running around shooting each other or looting all the stores and burning them? You won't need riots to empty the store shelves of food items, just a fear of a shortage will do that is one or two day's. Even if the Dollar was to become worthless overnight, there still isn't enough food in those stores to feed America for more than a few day's at most. So what will the riots be about and who will be doing it and to what? Riots are carried out by low life thugs looking to take advantage of a situation. The average person doesn't get involved in those kinds of activities, but would in all probability stand up against them, from extending their activities into their neighborhoods. Look what they did in England, manned their neighborhoods with clubs to keep the punks out. We have GUNS and a lot of them. Ask any grunt if he would rather be on a battle field or in town going house to house fighting the enemy and that is just what rioters face when they start roaming. They are on the outside looking to break-in, not knowing what or who is on the inside. While we are hiding on the inside taking aim with our semi-automatic rifles.

    I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this mad max scenario where millions are running rampant in the streets looting and burning everything in sight.
    Don't confuse mass protest or even parts of the country trying to leave the union, with the actions of thugs rioting in the streets.
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    In Vietnam Junior officers who Got Outta Line with the Grunts got Fragged. Fragging is when a Junior Officer is Blown Up With A Grenade. The reality is that the Ground Pounding Rifleman is going to be asked to fire on people who look just like their Mom, Dad, Sister and Brother. No order from above is gonna have enough clout to make most of them do that. Remember in Moscow when the Commanders ordered the Tanks to fire on the Public Buildings, and the Tankers said Nyet. Then they let the people who looked like their family members climb aboard the Tanks. FEMA camps are only as good as the number of guards it takes to surpress the people in them. Americans have been well educated by hundreds of hours of movies that have engrained in their heads---Don't let them get you into the camp. The only way they can control the population is with food. Your only as free as your ability to feed, and warm yourself while you hold your rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beach miner View Post
    In Vietnam Junior officers who Got Outta Line with the Grunts got Fragged. Fragging is when a Junior Officer is Blown Up With A Grenade. The reality is that the Ground Pounding Rifleman is going to be asked to fire on people who look just like their Mom, Dad, Sister and Brother. No order from above is gonna have enough clout to make most of them do that. Remember in Moscow when the Commanders ordered the Tanks to fire on the Public Buildings, and the Tankers said Nyet. Then they let the people who looked like their family members climb aboard the Tanks. FEMA camps are only as good as the number of guards it takes to surpress the people in them. Americans have been well educated by hundreds of hours of movies that have engrained in their heads---Don't let them get you into the camp. The only way they can control the population is with food. Your only as free as your ability to feed, and warm yourself while you hold your rifle.
    That's what I've been saying for years about our soldiers and the officers know it and they are not likely to raise arms against their families either.


    That food chain we have is the best fed in the world. That's why I say we will be the lasts ones to feel any pain from a food shortage. Even if the government tried to cut it off, the people would just take it back. There is just too many of us and too few of them to pull off anything like that, even on a You Tube spectacular. But it doesn't hurt to have enough food in your basement to feed a small army, to make sure "you" do not run out and no one is able to take it away from you!!!! I may not have sandbags around my house for protection, but having enough guns to fend off intruders is the next best thing. Short of hiding out in the Alaska mountains of course!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by valerb View Post
    According to your logic, Silver must be worthless also. Since anyone can trade those so called worthless Dollars for apparently worthless Silver. Or could it be that the Dollar is just worthless in your mind and not in reality? When the day comes that you can no longer walk into a grocery store and trade those worthless Dollars for food, then the Dollar will be worthless and not before.

    Funny thing about history, it keeps repeating itself. Some how we never stop finding reasons to kill each other and there will in all likelihood be a never ending line of people starving to death. The only thing that changes is, who's on top and who's on the bottom as the history deck is reshuffled in time!!!

    Just because there are wars, rioting and starvation, does not mean it "will" be happening right here in the US. Since we are the bread basket of the world, can you imagine what it will be like most everywhere else before it gets bad here, if it does at all?

    Do you envision 300 million American's running around shooting each other or looting all the stores and burning them? You won't need riots to empty the store shelves of food items, just a fear of a shortage will do that is one or two day's. Even if the Dollar was to become worthless overnight, there still isn't enough food in those stores to feed America for more than a few day's at most. So what will the riots be about and who will be doing it and to what? Riots are carried out by low life thugs looking to take advantage of a situation. The average person doesn't get involved in those kinds of activities, but would in all probability stand up against them, from extending their activities into their neighborhoods. Look what they did in England, manned their neighborhoods with clubs to keep the punks out. We have GUNS and a lot of them. Ask any grunt if he would rather be on a battle field or in town going house to house fighting the enemy and that is just what rioters face when they start roaming. They are on the outside looking to break-in, not knowing what or who is on the inside. While we are hiding on the inside taking aim with our semi-automatic rifles.

    I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this mad max scenario where millions are running rampant in the streets looting and burning everything in sight.
    Don't confuse mass protest or even parts of the country trying to leave the union, with the actions of thugs rioting in the streets.
    I never said silver was worthless, nor did I compare street thugs to protesters (that be you mate). Now, with that out of the way, the US is not the "bread basket" of the world. That is a long piece of propaganda fed to you by the same government that brought you 9/11. Even Rome fell and at the time nobody thought that possible. They watered down their money supply as well (took out the "silver" and mix in crap). After a time the army didn't even want it because it became so widespread and worthless. Endless wars cost a lot of money. It bankrupts all who pursue it. Riots are carried out by desperate people. If food ran out, do you think you could trust your starving neighbour and their kids from eventually attacking you for your food (?). BTW, the average American watches American Idol and football and figures that someone will eventually figure it all out. So sorry not this time. The population of not just America has been dumbed down with fluoride/GMO/vaccinations/MSM and is blissfully unprepared or aware of whats coming down the pipe. I'd rather be prepared for the worst and not need it then to be SOL..................

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