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chux03
20th March 2008, 04:01
due to brisk sales and yet the PRICE IS DROPPING?? It's at $17 and some change. So there's a shortage that really isn't a shortage because the price isn't going up?? WHAAAAAT????

http://news.silverseek.com/GoldIsMoney/1205995646.php

chux03
20th March 2008, 04:22
In fact, they look to be doing well tho the prices are now (compared to actual spot) considered high. BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN BUY SILVER IF YOU WANT!!

prahudka
20th March 2008, 04:24
In fact, they look to be doing well tho the prices are now (compared to actual spot) considered high. BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN BUY SILVER IF YOU WANT!!

My dealer has very little left.

macho trader
20th March 2008, 05:41
Wow, some traders have been stung on this washout. Down again today to 1740 as we speak on the front month.
Thank Fu*k i got out at 2004, my broker says Im a genuis for selling and timing. I still got my put options that were protecting the futures, and there making a killing too.
While many of you are crying im laughing.
Looking for a spot to buy back when this washout ends. Manipulation for sure, the big boys just gunned out all the stop sells and bought back a chunk of there shorts, a brilliant play by them, while joe bloggs wonders what happened.
Buying and holding just isnt as profitable as buying and selling and buying back cheaper.

Bulls make money, Bears make money and chickens make nothing,
Its the lambs and the pigs that get slaughtered and im nether.
Macho trader by name and macho trading is my game. :D:D:D:D lol

Irons
20th March 2008, 05:59
due to brisk sales and yet the PRICE IS DROPPING?? It's at $17 and some change. So there's a shortage that really isn't a shortage because the price isn't going up?? WHAAAAAT????

http://news.silverseek.com/GoldIsMoney/1205995646.php

I don't think they are out of silver by any means,but the small local sellers probably are, they just are not selling on the dip.Prices on ebay really have not dropped yet so its just a game of supply and demand as everybody wants to buy on the dips.
I couldent even get on apmex last night.

paker
20th March 2008, 10:55
Got mine for $18.50 per oz, including dealer markup, this morning.

chux03
20th March 2008, 14:35
"I don't think they are out of silver by any means,but the small local sellers probably are..."

APMEX is no "small local dealer" and neither are the others in Jason Hommels articles/emails from yesterday. These are MAJOR SILVER RETAILERS and if they all have some kind of shortage going...all I know is I want some physical silver in my hot little hands. My recommendation?? The title of this post says it all.

P.S. Those that're out after this "will be left standing at the station watching the train get smaller in the distance"...like the lotto, you can't win if you don't play. And if you ain't playing at this price...start waving!!

Barbaric Relic
20th March 2008, 15:47
Silver Shortage: 19 dealers reported "Sold Out"

By: Jason Hommel, Silver Stock Report


-- Posted 20 March, 2008 | Digg This ArticleDigg It! | Discuss This Article - Comments: 1


(SOLD OUT!!)
Silver Stock Report

You know me, I don't send out two emails in one day, so this must be important. Since my email earlier tonight, where I reported that 5-6 major silver dealers (Amark, Tulving, 2 in Vancouver, my local dealer, NWT Mint) are "out of inventory", 13 more reports came in, saying that the dealers were out of silver inventory. Some of these names are big names in the business, Scotia bank, the Perth Mint in Australia, CNI Numismatics in LA, APMEX says they have some items, but are looking to buy.

If there are any coin dealers or bullion shops that have an inventory, in stock, of more than 100, 100 oz. bars, let me know, and I'll give you FREE Advertising within 24 hours in my next newsletter.

Robert Mish reports that he has 100 x 100 oz. bars still, but he had 250 bars last week.
Mish International
Menlo Park
650-324-9110

Now think: How can the silver price drop by nearly $2/oz., when all these reports come in saying that the dealers are sold out, or nearly out, of physical silver? This is the clearest evidence of paper short selling manipulation that I've ever seen since I started watching the silver market back in 1999, and I've seen a lot of evidence!

Unfortunately, the COT reports only report through Tuesday. This Wednesday's action will not be revealed in the COT's until next Friday.

The public switched and turned buyers after gold hit $1000/oz. The coin shops normally sell to the refineries, and this creates a large part of the ~250 million oz. of silver recycling each year that meets the deficit between ~650 million oz. mine supply, and ~1000 million oz. demanded by inventory.

But now, this flow of silver just reversed. And if the refineries are not getting silver from the coin shops, industry will get squeezed, hard, and so will the major short sellers on the COMEX.

This is crunch time. Panic time.

The unedited reports follow (Names removed for privacy.)

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Coin shop report from St. Louis, MO. I shop at Missouri Coin and have purchased bulk 10oz bars (20 at a time) on several occasions. I went shopping yesterday and they only had 9 10oz bars available and the owner commented that he cannot find more anywhere. He was out of 10oz bars when I left...

I ended up picking up a bag of quarters as well since they didn't have the bar stock I was looking for.

A crunch is on.

J in St. Louis
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From: Ainslie Bullion Coy [mailto:info@ainsliebullion.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:53 AM
To: 'Linda Wagner'
Subject: RE: price

Sorry, I canít quote silver until the middle of next month.

The supplier wonít quote until then

Kind regards

Geoff


Ainslie Bullion Company
GPO Box 1870
Brisbane Qld 4001
Tel: +61 7 3221 0500
Fax: +61 7 3229 1895

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Jason,

My coin dealer is in Bakersfield CA. Mike's Coin and Stamp. My wife and I went in on monday and bought 4 100 oz. bars. Said he had a good supply of those. I also wanted some smaller bars and I wiped him out. Only 160 oz total. He says he can't keep them in stock very long before someone comes in and empties his supply. He's having a hard time getting replacements. He's the largest dealer in the area and very trustworthy. We also bought gold. At least some people seem to be taking serious what's going on.



H

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HI Jason:

CNI near the L.A. airport at www.golddealer.com is the dealer I have used....They were out of silver today also...

E

(CNI is a major dealer --Jason)

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Jason,

Just placed another order with Perth Mint, they are out of stock on everything, however there waiting period is no longer 6 months (Im guessing they received alot of complaints) its now 6-8 weeks.

Just got off the phone with them, they have no bullion in stock, its all on backorder, the official excuse is that it takes along time to make the bars and everyone wants them, could be viiewed as a good thing knowing demand is high, but I personaly dont like waiting 6-8 weeks for delivery.

I contacted several other dealers in Sydney, only 1 out of 5 has stock...... Everyone has back orders with PM which is the distributor.

Regards,
S

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APMEX reports, at apmex.com

Due to the OVERWHELMING demand for precious metals, our online ordering system has been unable to keep up with our customersí needs. We have had to disable the APMEX ordering system to allow us ample time to upgrade our site to accommodate the increased demand. We apologize for this temporary problem.
. . .

P.S. We are actively looking for new bullion inventory to purchase. If you have items that total $2,500 or more and are interested in selling, please call our trading offices at the number listed above. We are paying strong numbers for ALL Precious Metals!

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I want to tell you that your site is very helpfull and,i believe what you are doing,nice job in telling people about GOD money.I am a very smol investor, and i have in my posesion until now around 2000 ounces of silver bars,10 ounces and 50 ounces bars.Tuesday the 18. at scotia bank they did not have enouf silver.I wanted to buy but the vault was empty,they had only coins.And today is 19...19..This evil people work with numbers.They have dates for everything.19 is an important number for the ocult.All the best.GOD bless you and your family.

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Hello,
This past Monday I wired funds to purchase eleven 1,000 oz bullion bars from my dealer who I have purchased & sold sizable silver orders several times before. He called Monday afternoon and stated that none of his suppliers had any 1,000 ounce bars available, but not to worry, the next day they would probably have eleven bars to fill my order.

Tuesday, he called again, stating still none had bullion except one person had some, but he would only sell them at a ten cent premium over the dealer stated price or $1,100 more. I am a long term holder so I bought them just to have the silver in my depository possession.

By the way, my dealer is a high quality company and individual and he also stated he was flat covered over all day with transactions with people like myself buying silver. I also wonder with this condition, why the silver went down, and can't help to think about Ted Butlers assertion.

Cheers
FH

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Ordered 100 oz. from them early Jan. due to deliver this Friday. Way too long. My dealer in Arlington Texas is almost out of silver. Probably only has about 1000 oz. left. I will be taking some of that off his hands tomorrow.
Love your reports!
Have a great day
B

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mEDFORD ORE WAS OUT HAD A LINE WANTING TO PURCHASE

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Mr. Hommel,

I live in a small town of 16,000 In S. Illinois. I stopped by my local coin shop to pick up some Silver Eagles, and the cases were empty, except for numismatic value coins. He stated he had sold over 600+ Eagles in the last week and was waiting to receive more. I thought that to be a good indicator for the future direction of Silver. I also want to tip my hat to James Rawles for pointing me in your direction. Your e-mails are part of my recommended reading to my friends.

Thank you, RG


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin

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Jason,
I called the most consistent coin dealer in Memphis Monday. I like junk silver.
I could not buy a bag at any price. I was offered 5 100 once bars, period.
He stated that he hates ordering bags as the cost leaves him with indigestion.
Usually he is buying junk on a regular basis. At this time there seems to be
NO SELLERS.
Your old homie now in the Ozarks,
goatman

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Locally the dealers I've done business with are always in chronic tight supply and several of them recently couldn't fill a tiny $1,000 deal, let alone what I wanted to buy. I have bought hundreds of times but never more than 7461 ounces at a time. Got it from Bill Haynes in Phoenix. I was buying 90% when it was at 3.24x face and know it's still badly undervalued. I almost felt bad when a lady came in with bags of Franklins and she heard me tell the dealer I wanted them, her heart sunk, but it wasn't me that made her sell the gem BU coins. That's how quick the turnaround is. When investors go on waiting lists for hard metal, I believe it will cause the mining shares to finally zoom. We have several stupid billionaires in Dallas-Fort Worth and I wish they'd try to take a big position---it would benefit me!

--CS

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Again, to get silver, make sure you go local, take cash, and get the actual bars, if they have any! At this point, it matters little which product, just get any silver that they have that is somewhat close to the spot price, rounds, bars, odd weight bars, anything.

http://find-your-local-coin-shop.com/

It was for the inevitable time like this that I diligently complied the names of people in the industry who have 100,000 oz. of silver. I have 5 names on my list, but one of those 5, CNI, is now reported to be out. I don't know about the other 4; I've heard no reports about them. See the list of large dealers at http://find-your-local-coin-shop.com/

Sincerely,

Jason Hommel
www.silverstockreport.com
www.miningpedia.com

silverbuggy
20th March 2008, 16:21
this is just a hype...remember the dotcom bubble? Everybody HAD TO OWN dotcom stocks...everybody HAS TO OWN silver coins N-O-W!

Never forget: History repeats itself...over and over again.

chux03
20th March 2008, 16:41
this is just a hype...remember the dotcom bubble? Everybody HAD TO OWN dotcom stocks...everybody HAS TO OWN silver coins N-O-W!

Never forget: History repeats itself...over and over again.


You're comparing something with infinitesimal shares (the dot com bubble) against something smaller and more limited than just one of the large blue chip mega companies represented by market share. And against the whole complete silver market?? Get real and compare apples to apples. Total market cap of the ENTIRE SILVER MARKET is what? A few billion dollars worth?? And let's take Microsoft. Their market share is $273 BILLION? But you're comparing silver against the whole "dot com bubble"??
I ain't buying (your argument), I AM buying more silver...

gypsybiker45
20th March 2008, 16:44
You're comparing something with infinitesimal shares (the dot com bubble) against something smaller and more limited than just one of the large blue chip mega companies represented by market share. And against the whole complete silver market?? Get real and compare apples to apples. Total market cap of the ENTIRE SILVER MARKET is what? A few billion dollars worth?? And let's take Microsoft. Their market share is $273 BILLION? But you're comparing silver against the whole "dot com bubble"??
I ain't buying (your argument), I AM buying more silver...

Here Here! Chuxus,and i am also buying!

chux03
21st March 2008, 16:23
Me too. I called my local coin shop this afternoon and they're selling silver out the door for $18 an ounce "for all you want, no shortage here!!"
IF you can find it, you better buy it.
I feel lucky AND it's Friday, I have a couple of bucks in my pocket and I'm heading for the coin shop...what could be better?? I'm looking for a kilo bar today. :-) and well under $600 too. WHATTA DAY!!

silverbuggy
21st March 2008, 19:20
You're comparing something with infinitesimal shares (the dot com bubble) against something smaller and more limited than just one of the large blue chip mega companies represented by market share. And against the whole complete silver market?? Get real and compare apples to apples. Total market cap of the ENTIRE SILVER MARKET is what? A few billion dollars worth?? And let's take Microsoft. Their market share is $273 BILLION? But you're comparing silver against the whole "dot com bubble"??
I ain't buying (your argument), I AM buying more silver...

Looks that there are many beginners entering the markets. I recommend you guys to read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania

chux03
23rd March 2008, 21:57
"Looks that there are many beginners entering the markets."

Is that crack directed at me, Ace??

JesterJay
24th March 2008, 20:14
I think he is talking about me chux03,
I just started buying a few dollars ago, so I am still a newbie.
Let silbervuggy argue with Ted and Izzy,
JesterJay



"Looks that there are many beginners entering the markets."

Is that crack directed at me, Ace??

chux03
25th March 2008, 12:56
You know the one. It's the one where light, sweet crude at $60 a barrel IS in short supply. But when the price goes up to around $100 a barrel it seems there's NO SHORTAGE!!
Same with the silver market (it seems). The shortage rears it's ugly head when it falls to the high $16's and then soon as it's heading back up, just like magic and we're drowning in silver. I visited 2 local coin shops yesterday and both have silver coming out of their eyeballs. The closest dealer, when I asked him if he had any 10 ounce bars, pulled out a small tuperware rectangular storage container FULL of 10 ounce silver bars of various manufacturers. I'd guestimate there was 40 to 50 different ingots, bars etc in there and he said he had plenty more though he was noticing more customers who're presently selling silver "when it gets to $20 an ounce" than buyers. He said I tell em what I think (when asked; that it's going up and perhaps this isn't the best time to sell) but he's never had anyone take their silver back and walk out of his shop without selling. So he says he's HAPPY to buy their silver at $20 an ounce!! He's also happy when he sees me (he says) as he knows he's going to get some of my greenbacks... guess I'll have to start wearing a disguise!! :-)

So....was that the correction???