PDA

View Full Version : I Received a Letter From The IRS 2 days Ago....


chux03
17th March 2009, 23:53
First one I've ever gotten too. And I've been filing since 1972. At first glance I thought it was in regards to my retirement last fall and was a letter that had the "reason you're getting this notice" right out in front where you couldn't miss it. They had a box on there and it showed what they thought I owed but it was from my 2007 tax return. It seems that the brokerage company only bothers to tell them about the SALES I made during that calendar year and when I did my taxes using H&R Blocke's TaxCut I didn't put in a BUY price, so the IRS treated all of this as additional INCOME. They nailed me for an additional income of $10,600 and said the additional tax that I owe is $1908.00!!!!

WOOOOOOPS!!!!!!! I HATE when that happens!! So after a quick trip up to my local H&R Blocke, the nice lady there tells me that I just have to go back and look through my statements and get that BUY price and figure out the difference for each sale I had during that 2007 year and put that down as a loss or a profit on each sale. OhhhhhKaaaaaaaaaaaayy, I get it now.....I SEE how they figure your taxes on a brokerage account. If the thing lays dormant all year with no trades, then there's no taxes. BUT....if you trade occasionally like I do, ALL SALES ARE REPORTED AS JUST THAT....SALES. And some brokerages give you both your buy price AND your sell price but as I was with these guys for only a year or so, I had issues that I owned before using them so they wouldn't have known that. So keep track of your transactions, print out your statements etc, etc. because they could come in handy, just like here. So after a couple of hours of....bookwork back at the ranch, I managed to get that $10,600 down to $694.75 and the taxes due down from $1908 to less than $150.

She also checked on how much they withheld when I retired last fall and she did a quick back of the napkin calculation and looked up at me and said...."Oh they withheld quite a bit, I think that if you only worked half the year and can show a loss in your investments of $3 or $4 thousand, with your home's interest etc and I think this isn't AS BAD AS YOU'RE THINKING THERE, MR. SMITH." (WOW...YOU WOULDN'T KID AN OLD GUY WOULD YOU?? :D ) Anyway, she says, it's close enough not to worry about; So go home, figure out your brokerage problem and we'll see you back here on Thursday morning at 11:00 and we'll get this all....fixed.

Coooooool....see ya then! :)

ricm123
18th March 2009, 07:34
First one I've ever gotten too. And I've been filing since 1972. At first glance I thought it was in regards to my retirement last fall and was a letter that had the "reason you're getting this notice" right out in front where you couldn't miss it. They had a box on there and it showed what they thought I owed but it was from my 2007 tax return. It seems that the brokerage company only bothers to tell them about the SALES I made during that calendar year and when I did my taxes using H&R Blocke's TaxCut I didn't put in a BUY price, so the IRS treated all of this as additional INCOME. They nailed me for an additional income of $10,600 and said the additional tax that I owe is $1908.00!!!!

WOOOOOOPS!!!!!!! I HATE when that happens!! So after a quick trip up to my local H&R Blocke, the nice lady there tells me that I just have to go back and look through my statements and get that BUY price and figure out the difference for each sale I had during that 2007 year and put that down as a loss or a profit on each sale. OhhhhhKaaaaaaaaaaaayy, I get it now.....I SEE how they figure your taxes on a brokerage account. If the thing lays dormant all year with no trades, then there's no taxes. BUT....if you trade occasionally like I do, ALL SALES ARE REPORTED AS JUST THAT....SALES. And some brokerages give you both your buy price AND your sell price but as I was with these guys for only a year or so, I had issues that I owned before using them so they wouldn't have known that. So keep track of your transactions, print out your statements etc, etc. because they could come in handy, just like here. So after a couple of hours of....bookwork back at the ranch, I managed to get that $10,600 down to $694.75 and the taxes due down from $1908 to less than $150.

She also checked on how much they withheld when I retired last fall and she did a quick back of the napkin calculation and looked up at me and said...."Oh they withheld quite a bit, I think that if you only worked half the year and can show a loss in your investments of $3 or $4 thousand, with your home's interest etc and I think this isn't AS BAD AS YOU'RE THINKING THERE, MR. SMITH." (WOW...YOU WOULDN'T KID AN OLD GUY WOULD YOU?? :D ) Anyway, she says, it's close enough not to worry about; So go home, figure out your brokerage problem and we'll see you back here on Thursday morning at 11:00 and we'll get this all....fixed.

Coooooool....see ya then! :)

Good you know how it works now.
You can also attribute losses, up to 3k a year.
http://www.fairmark.com/capgain/capgain.htm

sliver
20th March 2009, 22:49
Good you know how it works now.
You can also attribute losses, up to 3k a year.
http://www.fairmark.com/capgain/capgain.htm

Check that one though. You can only do that if you have $3k in gains to offset that, but I'm not sure. Also I think the $3k can only be offset by long term gains. Also I think the Infernal Revenue Service has special rules on coins and what qualifies as long term situations.

Sliver

chux03
22nd March 2009, 01:48
She called me yesterday and said that the 2007 ammendment was done. She found a couple of small mistakes, found I had some $1700 vehicle sales tax that I should've claimed as well as she fixed the brokerage statement that reflects an underpayment by me of less than $100. She then made me an appointment for 11:00 Monday morning to pick up my return for 2008's taxes and I'll know then.....IF I owe any additional money. I have a feeling that I won't be so lucky with 2008's taxes and that it's going to cost me....something. She did mention that I can write off $3000 in stock losses this year and if I have more then we can carry them over to next year. Final tally there was around $3500 mostly because I lost over half of that on an investment in Torrent Energy (TREN) that went tits up. While nobody tries for a loss, THIS YEAR I'm HAPPY as a clam at high tide that I get to write near the full amount of the loss off in addition to claiming mortgage interest, not working the complete year and more vehicle sales taxes as well as some other expenses that I HOPE damm near covers anything I may....owe.
So come Monday around noon here on the west coast, I'll find out whether I'm singing the blues.... or whistling Dixy. I'll let you know then. WISH ME LUCK!! :D

sliver
22nd March 2009, 22:19
Looks like you may come out with your knickers on!!...Good luck!!

Sliver

chux03
23rd March 2009, 17:15
I guess there's no easy way to say it other than to mention how much I owe the IRS for retiring in 2008 and not being at least 55 years old.

Calculation: App. $300K gross in a retirement account on 08- 2008. Rolled over half with no taxes due.

Balance due on amount received in 08 buyout, which includes income taxes for 2008:


$15,700

And I don't know what to say except that I'm glad....I have it?? :(