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Katwoman
4th March 2009, 10:42
The DemoRats are trying to divide and conquer the GOP They believe that by depicting El Rushbo as the defacto leader of the GOP that they can at least change soften the tone of the conservative base. Everyone who believes in sound money, small government, real freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and liberty needs to use this to our advantage.

Everyone knows the GOP has problems and everyone knows the emerging new defacto leader is Dr. Ron Paul and his message of sound money and small government.

If the liberals want change we should give em more change than they can handle.

Let's roll!!

SilverJim
4th March 2009, 12:08
By the time this president and congress stand for re-election, the country will be in such bad shape that Republicans need only not shoot themselves in the foot. As for Ron Paul, he has no real chance but I think Secretary of the Treasury would be good. :cool:

Katwoman
4th March 2009, 12:38
By the time this president and congress stand for re-election, the country will be in such bad shape that Republicans need only not shoot themselves in the foot. As for Ron Paul, he has no real chance but I think Secretary of the Treasury would be good. :cool:

I would not expect him to win either but he is now actually a stronger voice than he was when he ran. Just look at how often you see him on the idiot tube. Plus he has said he will not run again. But his message is resonating with young and old republicans and libertarians who want to shore up the republic and get back to our small government roots and prevent the kind of "change" that would surely destroy us.

fullsafe
4th March 2009, 12:54
I'm sure you've heard the 'cooking the frog' analogy. The trouble with Ron Paul ( and I am a fan) is he seems to advocate pulling the frog from the hot water, which is boiling now, and throwing it into ice cold water to save it! The shock of his rhetoric would kill the country faster than the heat.

The GOP would do better using a combination of Steve Forbes and Steven Moore as their mouth pieces and replace Richard Steele with Walter Williams!

Mylläri
4th March 2009, 13:13
Everyone knows the GOP has problems and everyone knows the emerging new defacto leader is Dr. Ron Paul and his message of sound money and small government.

The GOP has problems due to what they did under Bush and a bitter taste will linger in the American mouth for a while to come. Ron Paul the "de facto leader?" No offence but that has to be the silliest statement I've heard in a while. Ron Paul has stated that he is only under the Republican banner because of convienience, he has no true ties to the innerworkings of the actual party oganization. Nor would I believe that the party itself would make an effort to prop him up in any instance.

Is this a conspiracy theory about the Dems and Limbaugh? Or something otherwise trumped up? Look folks, Rush Limbaugh is an ENTERTAINER and would be the first person to tell you that he doesn't take himself seriously. He does what he does and says what he says because he gets paid $38 million every year to do so. To get caught up in what he says or what someone says about him (or perhaps like his "liberal" doppleganger Ed Schultz) just proves you're drinking the Kool Aid that both sides are giving you. "Dingy" Harry Reid was incredibly foolish to mention Rush in Congress a while back, that only serves to lend some false credibility to this crap.

Ancona
4th March 2009, 16:42
The GOP has problems due to what they did under Bush and a bitter taste will linger in the American mouth for a while to come. Ron Paul the "de facto leader?" No offence but that has to be the silliest statement I've heard in a while. Ron Paul has stated that he is only under the Republican banner because of convienience, he has no true ties to the innerworkings of the actual party oganization. Nor would I believe that the party itself would make an effort to prop him up in any instance.

Is this a conspiracy theory about the Dems and Limbaugh? Or something otherwise trumped up? Look folks, Rush Limbaugh is an ENTERTAINER and would be the first person to tell you that he doesn't take himself seriously. He does what he does and says what he says because he gets paid $38 million every year to do so. To get caught up in what he says or what someone says about him (or perhaps like his "liberal" doppleganger Ed Schultz) just proves you're drinking the Kool Aid that both sides are giving you. "Dingy" Harry Reid was incredibly foolish to mention Rush in Congress a while back, that only serves to lend some false credibility to this crap.


I agree with Mylläri, Neither party is relevant. Both groups are working their own agenda, not the agenda of the American People. It has been this way for a long time, and it will remain so until the People grow a collective backbone and demand something different. Our new President ran on a platform of change. We are certainly getting it. This President and Congress will change the location of my money from my bank accounts and earnings into money to be paid to those who either cannot, do not or will not work. We are witnessing the greatest collective addiction in the history of the world, an addiction to other peoples money that is.

Taking from the rich and giving to the poor has been a Democratic theme for many years, just as taking from the poor and giving to the rich has been the Republican way. Until we begin to demand that the People produce for themselves and supply their families needs, and that the Government does not exist to feed, clothe and house them, we will continue to regress as a society.

No.....the Democrats haven't struck gold, they dug into the bank vault and stole your money outright. We never got to vote on it and we never had our voices recognized by those who we entrusted to be our voices in the Congress.

What a tragedy. :(

Katwoman
4th March 2009, 17:15
I respectfully disagree. Ron Paul is on a mission to restore the Republican party as he and you as well as I all know that it will be a lot easier to do this than it will be to get enough people to vote for a libertarian candidate. Plus, if you have been listening to the major voices in the GOP lately you will find them all sounding more and more like RP.

As for the shock of the gold standard and non interventionist policies he espouses the benefits of, I should remind you that America has gone on and off the gold standard before and since we cannot fund an interventionist foreign policy while on it this change that he favors is necessitated by it and should ironically please the liberals who oppose the war machine.

If you have not up on it go to the Campaign for Liberty website and listen to RP and his followers now. You will hear a change in their tone and mission.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

Katwoman
5th March 2009, 09:01
Ron Paul sure is getting a lot of attention for a guy who has no clout!


http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

fullsafe
5th March 2009, 09:29
I thought the same thing in the mid 90's when he was the only one in the government who was willing to take a stand on the constitutionality of the IRS code. It seemed I heard him talking about it every where I went and on every news broadcast I saw. I was convinced that with the movement afoot ,Newt and Dick Armey in Congress and the people awakening tax reform and the IRS were doomed!

Then I realised I was just 'listening' harder than everyone else. After the economic calamity thats coming and the upheaval that will follow----maybe in a couple decades you might get a shot at your gold standard---maybe.

Katwoman
5th March 2009, 09:49
I thought the same thing in the mid 90's when he was the only one in the government who was willing to take a stand on the constitutionality of the IRS code. It seemed I heard him talking about it every where I went and on every news broadcast I saw. I was convinced that with the movement afoot ,Newt and Dick Armey in Congress and the people awakening tax reform and the IRS were doomed!

Then I realised I was just 'listening' harder than everyone else. After the economic calamity thats coming and the upheaval that will follow----maybe in a couple decades you might get a shot at your gold standard---maybe.

That was then this is now. We are in the midst of the worst economic crisis in decades and all fingers are pointing at the Federal Reserve being at least partially to blame. Granted things may not be bad enough yet to get the sheople to see the forest for the trees but many in congress are starting to realize that continuing to milk the American people of their life savings via inflation is not a good way to get reelected.

Katwoman
5th March 2009, 10:23
With the GOP losing ground daily my bets are on them discovering that pushing for a return to sound money may be the answer to all their problems.

I certainly will be writing as many members of the GOP as possible to let them know what I think.

Mylläri
5th March 2009, 10:43
I respectfully disagree. Ron Paul is on a mission to restore the Republican party as he and you as well as I all know that it will be a lot easier to do this than it will be to get enough people to vote for a libertarian candidate. Plus, if you have been listening to the major voices in the GOP lately you will find them all sounding more and more like RP.

Is this just your opinion? I'm kinda thinking that you want to believe this as you seem to be an advocate for the GOP and Ron Paul although those two entities have not proven to advocate for one another. I've watched Ron Paul state several times that he is only a Republican because of all the hoops you DON'T have to jump though to get elected and re-elected as compared to one who is of independant or third party affiliation.

If more people are "sounding" like Ron Paul, that is known as "lip service." As soon as I see some results then I might get on board with that incinuation. The GOP is pretty desperate at this point and is grasping at anything that could lend them any credibility, I defer to my former statement on Bush.

When I see it, I'll believe it ;)

fullsafe
5th March 2009, 14:02
Katwoman , your handle is incorrect , it should be Donna Quixote!

I respect your determination but the Fed is an illusory windmill. This IS now and it's much worse now than then. The Fed has metastasized throughout the globe and removal will only occur after dramatic upheaval. The sheople today are not going to become the citizen people you need to make any meaningful changes and expecting anything good from our governing bodies is , well , hopeless. The chances of the U.S. becoming a fuedal oligarchy are much greater than reverting to a Constitutional republic.

The dems ARE mining the gold field the GOP left behind because McCain and Co. didn't have the sense to nip it when it started . We know the media's position and don't expect much help there. Regardless of whether Rush is an entertainer or a dentist , his influence is undeniable and the Dems will continue to use that to their advantage. Rush , as a shill for the GOP, will never support RP and the division that creates will continue to be exploited by the Socialists.

Keep the faith , but in the meantime ,I'm going to keep reloading!