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Peter Spina
4th October 2006, 18:54
Ionic Silver – The Powerful Defense Against Viruses And Other Microbes
-- 12 September, 2006
"The following is an authorized pre-publication reprint of an article to appear shortly in Health Freedom News, Vol. 24, No. 3 (Summer 2006), p 22+ Health Freedom News is a publication of The National Health Federation (www.thenhf.com)"
http://news.silverseek.com/SilverSeek/1158086092.php
prahudka
3rd April 2008, 08:34
Ionic Silver – The Powerful Defense Against Viruses And Other Microbes
-- 12 September, 2006
"The following is an authorized pre-publication reprint of an article to appear shortly in Health Freedom News, Vol. 24, No. 3 (Summer 2006), p 22+ Health Freedom News is a publication of The National Health Federation (www.thenhf.com)"
http://news.silverseek.com/SilverSeek/1158086092.php
A number of sources say silver must be colloidal, not ionic to be effective. The former is apparenlty ineffective once bound with chloride to make a salt.
Thoughts?
What are some simple ways to make use of silver at home?
paker
3rd April 2008, 16:14
Cuts and scratches using an older 10 oz Engelhard bar.
I normally take 2 weeks to heal from a cut, from cut to scab free. I whacked my finger cutting a piece of salmon 2 sundays ago. I had read earlier about silver's antibiotic properties so I figured "why not" I held the bar on the cut as often as I could. At the end of 8 days the cut was healed and the scab was gone.
prahudka
4th April 2008, 14:06
Cuts and scratches using an older 10 oz Engelhard bar.
I normally take 2 weeks to heal from a cut, from cut to scab free. I whacked my finger cutting a piece of salmon 2 sundays ago. I had read earlier about silver's antibiotic properties so I figured "why not" I held the bar on the cut as often as I could. At the end of 8 days the cut was healed and the scab was gone.
You know, I did the same thing with an Eagle here in my office. I took out the garbage and had a fairly deep cut from glass. Lots of blood. Zero infection, which is unusual for me. I did put some honey on it when I got home though, which has worked extremely well for me of late.
Kelly
4th April 2008, 22:28
Prahudka? Do you understand the difference between colloidal silver and ionic silver? I don't and I wish somebody would explain it to me. I've read articles on both, but I don't understand the difference in the manufacturing process, or even how one differs from the other. Is an ionic process one that irradiates silver with negative ions?
offgrid
5th April 2008, 02:25
Colloidal and ionic are the same; colloids are basically a solid suspended in a liquid, in this case a silver ion with a positive charge and once attaining one negative becomes complete (inert/non-reactive) . Then you have what I keep on hand 'covalent', which is a multitude of positive oxygen atoms bonded to the silver atom and once they are complete, more are attracted, until the silver is finally depleted. Kinda like the difference between a derringer and a gatling gun. Hope that helps. ( I guess that is why that one guy turned blue from colloidal silver, no reg's is probably part of it,and you need alot more silver ions in solution.
prahudka
5th April 2008, 07:33
Prahudka? Do you understand the difference between colloidal silver and ionic silver? I don't and I wish somebody would explain it to me. I've read articles on both, but I don't understand the difference in the manufacturing process, or even how one differs from the other. Is an ionic process one that irradiates silver with negative ions?
Ionic is short an electron, meaning it is hungry to bond to make up the difference. Something about the electrical process of creating it leaves it that way.
In the bound form, some say it is less available to do its work in the body. That's the big question.
Colloid is like just very fine silver particles. As you know, silver, and gold even more so, is relatively inert and doesn't react as much with other substances. Iron rusts, for example, gold does not.
Kelly
5th April 2008, 17:34
Thanks Offgrid and Prahudka. I understand ions, but from everything I know about them, there is a really huge difference between positive ions and negative ions. Negative ions are some of the most, beneficial, healing and positive things for the earth, body and mind on the planet. In fact, they are absolutely necessary to health, but in contrast positive ions set up the conditions that cause all kinds of disease to take place. Here is an excellent article explaining the difference between positive and negative ions. The article isn't about ionic silver, but it'll give you some great background information and you'll get the picture.
http://ion_effects.tripod.com/
(The article talks about chemtrails, but mostly it's about ions, and explains it better than most other articles I've read.)
I started getting interested in ions because most electrical equipment, from cell phones to microwaves to our computers put out a positive ionic field, which isn't good for us at all. I've been using ionic air cleaners in the house for years as a means to supply negative ions. They work great, by the way, especially if somebody has a lot of allergies because they clean pollutants and dust out of the air. They take away bad smells too, like when you are cooking fish…
It just seems to me that for ionic silver to work right, the silver would have to be negatively ionized, which would, at least theoretically, amplify all the good things silver can do for you. Negative ions work to kill viruses and bacteria in the same way that silver (also copper) does. Neg ions can also remove pollutants from water, even heavy metal pollutants, clean up polluted ground, and they have a profound effect on nature. Studies have been done that show germination of seeds can increase from 30%-50% if the seeds are first bathed in negative ions. And the yields from those seeds have shown increases up to 100%. That sure impressed me…
I'll bet I know a cheap and easy way that anybody could charge a piece of silver, like an eagle, coin or small bullion bar with negative ions. Of course, it wouldn't be like ionic colloidal silver, because you couldn't consume a coin or an eagle, but there are a lot of health and water purification applications (etc.) where you wouldn't necessarily need small particle colloidal silver to do the trick.
For instance, if you want to make sure drinking water is safe, there is no question about it, dropping a piece of silver (copper too) in a quart of water for 24 hours will kill any bacteria in the water. In ancient times, people carried disks of silver and copper for precisely this reason because they never knew if well-water or river water was safe to drink. And during the Middle Ages when the plagues hit humanity hard, it was noticed that men who worked in the copper and silver mines didn't get sick, so people started wearing disks of either copper or silver over their diaphragms in order to keep from getting the plague. Since the plague was a bacterial disease carried by rats, and silver and copper kills bacteria, what they did makes absolute sense.
I'll bet I know a way you can negatively ionize water that has been purified by silver, so you'd not only get the anti-viral and anti-bacterial properties of silver in your water, you'd also get all the healing and healthy benefits of negative ions. It'd be cheap too, compared to buying colloidal silver.
This is absolutely ANCIENT stuff that I am talking about, but ancient civilizations knew a heck of a lot about natural healing.
Let me type it up and find the references. I'll get back to you with it…
offgrid
5th April 2008, 18:31
I would appreciate those links. I just finished testing my well water with a nwtm round (small container w/round) to see if my high hydrogen sulfide would affect the round adversely, it didn't. So I plopped the round into my holding tank. While I waited for a few days, I had a small cut that I dipped in one evening, next day it was closed and uninfected. So I plopped the round into my holding tank. Pradhuka is right, it is a negative charge on the silver ion.
Here is a link to covalent silver and its difference to colloidal: www.fflt.org/Covalent%20Summary.htm
Kelly
5th April 2008, 20:41
Well, my main study throughout my life has been ancient history and archaeology. I've been studying it for about forty-five years now, and you can't read all that stuff without running into the ancient's knowledge of using silver, gold and copper (the high metals) for healing. Furthermore, there is a heck of a lot to suggest that the ancient civilizations actually knew more about the principals of ionization and its effect on nature and healing than we do today. And do you know what gives that away? It's the fact that every ancient culture in the world built either pyramids or ziggurats, and there is some very hard core scientific evidence today that they were building these things in order to effect either a positive or negative ionic charge, and they did so because they knew the effects that ions have on the human psyche, health, and the natural environment.
When you study the cultures that were very aggressive, warlike and violent and look at the materials they built their pyramids or ziggurats out of, it becomes fairly obvious that they were constructed in order to produce positive ions, which increases tension, and generally makes people more aggressive and violent. The heavy use of stones which contain a very high proportion of silicon dioxide (quartz crystal) would hold a positive ionic charge. By the same token, in the more agrarian cultures that were more into agriculture, fertility of the earth, and healing you'd see that they built their temple structures out of mud bricks, or mounded earth; things that would tend to "ground" electrical properties and produce a negative ionic charge.
The principals behind the use of pyramids to produce ionization are actually pretty simple. I started getting into it back into the seventies when "pyramid power" became all the big rage. During this same time it was discovered that you could put a dull razor blade in a pyramid and after a few days the blade would become sharpened. Well, all the crazies screamed "magic!" and all sorts of wavey gravy theories surfaced about what actually caused it, but the fact is, the whole thing is based upon the scientific principals inherent in ionization.
Ionization of atoms occur when particles speed up, move faster than normal, and bounce around hitting each other. When this happens, an electron sloughs off, leaving the particle with either a positive or negative ionic charge. Though it took me years and years of study to finally get what a pyramid actually does, they basically work as ionizers. And it's really all about shape. A pyramid has four sides (plus the base) that angle upwards to meet at a point or apex. The shape itself causes atoms within a pyramid to start speeding up and bouncing around, and they eventually move faster and faster until the atmosphere within a pyramid becomes highly charged with ions. There is no hocus pocus to it. And it's actually the rapid movement of all these particles hitting the sides of a razor blade that sharpens it again.
When most people think of a pyramid, they automatically think of the Giza complex. But in truth, using Giza as a model for a pyramid structure may not be all that wise. The ancient Egyptians were a very, very aggressive race. They were warlike and constantly invading the other nations around them. Furthermore, their pyramids don't appear to have been built to produce negative ions; they appear to have been built to concentrate the energy of positive ions instead. One of the most obvious clues to that is the fact that Giza sits in the middle of a desert, and deserts collect positive ions. Secondly, a pyramid structure designed to produce negative ions inevitably has a healing and beneficial effect on the nature system surrounding the pyramid and you see not a blade of grass nor a tree growing around the Giza complex.
By contrast, one might look at the Earthen Pyramids of China which utterly dwarfs anything at Giza, and you see that nature is abundantly growing all over most of these structures. And whether nature is attracted to a pyramid or not is actually a dead give away to the type of ionic field that pyramid is actually producing. Nature is not particularly fond of growing in a place where positive ions collect because positive ions do not produce a healthy environment. Here's what some of the Chinese pyramids look like...
http://www.trilobia.com/pyramids.htm
http://www.earthquest.co.uk/china/china.html
Another profound example of negative ion producing pyramids would be the recently discovered Pyramids in Bosnia. These are mounded earth pyramids covered, believe it or not, with what has proven to be concrete and these pyramids are now thought to be 10,000 years old! Obviously, the Egyptians, in spite of the hype, were not the first ones to come up with pyramids.
http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/
http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/index_Files/Images.html
So, we see that throughout history the ancients used pyramids from China to Sumeria to Egypt and Europe, and all of these structures were built to either promote healing and fertility by amplifying negative ions, or promote conquest by war by promoting positive ions, and unfortunately, those positive ions also produce disease by giving viral and bacterial pathogens the ideal environment to grow in, plus a host of other curious ailments.
And who is the hands down winner for figuring out how to build a pyramid that perpetually puts out a negative ion field? Well, those pyramids are actually very recent, and they were built by the Russians in the Ukraine. In my opinion, these pyramids have proven themselves to be the model pyramid for anybody looking to charge silver by subjecting it to a negative ion field. Here, take a look at them, and read about them while I do some more typing…
http://www.abo.ru/english.html
http://www.gizapyramid.com/russian/picture-tour1.htm
http://www.pyramids.ru/english.html
http://www.pyramidoflife.com/
http://www.pyramidoflife.com/eng/tests_experiments.html
Kelly
5th April 2008, 23:37
Well obviously, the Russian pyramids look very different than what we are used to seeing and that's because they are based upon "The Golden Means" i.e. the mathematical principal of Phi. Of all the mathematical principals and formulas that abound, for me Phi remains the most profound and amazing principal of all. Primarily, phi does not appear to be merely a formula, it is actually a FUNCTION of nature, and we see it in operation throughout the entire universe. Close your eyes for a moment and picture a spiral galaxy. That galaxy forms a Fibonacci Spiral based upon the principals of phi, and we see the same thing echoed throughout nature, from the way the petals of a pine cone form to the way leaves form around the stem of a plant. For some bizaar and inexplicable reason, all of nature, the universe, healing and perhaps even the omnipotent force we call the Creation of God seems tied to the universal function we see embodied in the principal of phi. I can't explain it; I'm not even going to try, but I remain awed by what it represents.
When the Russians hit upon designing their pyramids totally around the mathematical formula for Phi, they hit on something that is remarkably amazing. Their largest Pyramid is 144 feet tall, and that thing is putting out a negative ion plume that reaches one mile high into the sky! No hocus pocus to it; it's been photographed on Russian radar screens. I've looked at the research, much of which is not available on the net, and it's for real and documented. Whatever that negative ion plume represents, they know for a fact that since they've built their pyramid complex, the hole in the ozone layer over Russia began repairing itself. (!!!!) By the same token, the area of Russia they built these pyramids in has a long history of severe seismic activity, and they've got the seismic records going back several decades to prove it. However, since they built their phi pyramid complex, they have noticed that they are not having any more big earthquakes that produce chaos and damage, instead they are experiencing many more earthquakes, but they are small, measuring less than 3 on the Richter scale. Their seismologists are postulating that the negative ion plumes from each pyramid extends down into the earth as far as they reach up into the sky, and there seems to be something about negative ions that is breaking up the electrical charges deep in the earth that causes the tectonic plates to move. And this makes sense because a negative ion would attract the earth's positive ions to it and inevitably when they meet it would return a positively charged field to neutral again. In other words, the negative ions are defusing the positively charged energy fields that produce seismic reactions. It's truly some of the most amazing research I've ever seen.
Though I've been building small Giza styled pyramid models since the 70's, when I examined all the research on Phi pyramids, I decided to try a few and test them to see if there was anything to the Russian research. I've built several of them now, and if you are looking for a simple, effective way to build a negative ion generator; something you can use as a practical means to charge silver with negative ions, and something that perpetually works with no moving parts, this is it!
From the experiments I've tried so far, a phi pyramid produces the healing energy of negative ions, and compared against the Giza models, the Phi model wins every time!
They're not hard to build; in fact they're easy. And they don't have to be big; I make "tabletop models" all the time, and find them to be a very practical size for charging half gallon containers of water, seeds, food, stones, silver, copper and gold or whatever you want to charge in a negative ion field. There is lots of potential for experimentation here.
Phi, "the Golden Means" is a very simple formula, and you don't have to be a mathematical whiz kid to figure it out. To apply the principal of Phi to a pyramid, all you have to do is decide how big at the base you want your tabletop model to be. Let's say you want the base of each side to be 10.5 inches, because this works out to be just about the right size to charge a half gallon plastic milk jug filled with water. If you are going to build a pyramid 10.5 inches at the base, you multiply that dimension by 1.618 to figure out how high your pyramid model is going to be at the apex. In this example, you'd want each of the four sides to measure 16.989 inches high at the apex.
You can build one of these things for less than $7 bucks. All you really need is one piece of 3/16 inch 20 x 30 foam-core board (you can find it in either the art dept. or office supply dept. of most big stores) and some 2 inch wide masking tape. And you'll need a box cutter with a new, sharp blade too. (Don't even try to cut foam core unless your blade is new, because you'll end up with a mess.) Alternatively, once you know what your measurements are going to be, you could go to a picture framing department where they cut matt board, and ask them to cut the foam-core for you. They've got the equipment to cut it with a nice professional looking edge. You don't really want to build one of these table-top pyramids with a bottom piece; it's not necessary. The floor, or the shelf or table-top you place it on will actually serve as the base. Besides, you want to be able to put things easily inside of your pyramid so connecting a bottom wouldn't be very practical. All you really need is four pieces of foam-core cut 10.5 inches wide at the bottom edge that meet to a point forming an apex at the height of 16.989 inches.
Continued next post…
Kelly
5th April 2008, 23:38
Before you even go to the store for foam-core, draw out a practice piece on some old paper. Use the back side of some old Xmas wrapping paper to draw it out; that paper is big enough. You'll need to lay your cutting pattern out so that along one edge you place the base side, then next to it place the apex of the next piece with the base facing the opposite direction, and so forth. This way you can fit all four pieces onto one sheet of foam core. It's complicated to try to write it out in words, but if you try drawing it out, you'll get the hang of it and understand how you need to lay out the pieces correctly.
Once you get to the place where you have all four sides of your phi pyramid cut out of foam-core, lay out all the four pieces so the sides meet and the apex of each piece meet together, then tape the sides together using wide masking tape. Then pick the taped pyramid pieces up so the tape is facing to what will become the inside of your pyramid, bend them into the pyramid shape, and tape the last edge together along the inside seam.
Voila! You've got a functional table-top pyramid and you can use this thing to charge silver with negative ions. Don't ask me HOW it works; I don't really know anymore than people can adequately explain why the earth has a Schumann resonance, or a gravity field or a magnetic field. Some things just are. And I guess this is just one of those things.
Now, there is nothing too terribly attractive about a foam-core pyramid, but if you've a mind to, you can glue decorative papers over the top in a collage, or paint it or whatever strikes your fancy. These little table-top models make great bases for all sorts of three-dimensional art projects.
Wherever you decide to put your pyramid ionic generator, you'll need to align one side of it to due north, so use a compass to help you figure it out. Like I said, I don't understand why these things put out a negative ionic field, all I know is that they do, and you can use this field to charge a jug of drinking water that has a piece of silver in it. (A half gallon milk jug will fit just fine beneath your pyramid, but the hole isn't big enough for a silver eagle; you'd have to use a piece of silver that is smaller around. A 1 oz. bullion bar fits fine.)
I can just about guarantee you that if you charge water and silver together for about 24 hours then drink it you will actually feel the difference in the water as you swallow it. There is an energy to it that is simply not in normal drinking water. I have become convinced that somehow drinking silver ionized water this way balances your body's electrical field and creates a environment where healing takes place.
There are lots of experiments you can try. For instance, you can go to the store, buy one bunch of flowers and divide them in half. Put half the flowers in a vase filled with normal tap water, and half the flowers in a vase filled with silver ionized water. You'll see that the flowers in the ionized silver water last longer. You can go to the store and buy two little starter house plants of the same variety and size. Water one plant with regular tap water and the other with silver ionized water, and you'll soon see which plant grows faster and is healthier. If you've got a dog that is old and has arthritis try putting silver ionized water in his water bowl. Your dog's aches and pains will get better. If you've got a child with ADHD, (which is no fun to live with) try giving that child silver ionized water to drink on a daily basis, and you'll see an improvement in his or her behavior. They get calmer. Some people today are theorizing that our atmosphere today is so filled with positive ions due to the amount of electronic technology all over the planet that people are actually becoming allergic to the very atmosphere and ADHD may be a symptom of that.
The silver imparts an energy that helps reduce just about any kind of viral or bacterial pathogen, while negative ionization balances the body's bio-electric system. For some unfathomable reason, when you put the two together, you produce a condition that promotes healing in a safe and natural way.
There are lots of other ways to experiment with this combination, and I'll tell you some of those things another day.
Have fun with it. This really works, and you will be able to actually see (and feel) the results. I can't explain why it works, but it is really quite amazing…
Oh. I almost forgot. Don't put any base metals inside your tabletop pyramid; they will screw with the negative ions every time. Use only the high metals; silver, gold and copper. The ancients lived by this stuff, and I think maybe they actually knew what they were doing.
The world is a very curious place…
nayoibi
26th September 2008, 22:15
Before you even go to the store for foam-core, draw out a practice piece on some old paper. Use the back side of some old Xmas wrapping paper to draw it out; that paper is big enough. You'll need to lay your cutting pattern out so that along one edge you place the base side, then next to it place the apex of the next piece with the base facing the opposite direction, and so forth. This way you can fit all four pieces onto one sheet of foam core. It's complicated to try to write it out in words, but if you try drawing it out, you'll get the hang of it and understand how you need to lay out the pieces correctly.
Once you get to the place where you have all four sides of your phi pyramid cut out of foam-core, lay out all the four pieces so the sides meet and the apex of each piece meet together, then tape the sides together using wide masking tape. Then pick the taped pyramid pieces up so the tape is facing to what will become the inside of your pyramid, bend them into the pyramid shape, and tape the last edge together along the inside seam.
Voila! You've got a functional table-top pyramid and you can use this thing to charge silver with negative ions. Don't ask me HOW it works; I don't really know anymore than people can adequately explain why the earth has a Schumann resonance, or a gravity field or a magnetic field. Some things just are. And I guess this is just one of those things.
Now, there is nothing too terribly attractive about a foam-core pyramid, but if you've a mind to, you can glue decorative papers over the top in a collage, or paint it or whatever strikes your fancy. These little table-top models make great bases for all sorts of three-dimensional art projects.
Wherever you decide to put your pyramid ionic generator, you'll need to align one side of it to due north, so use a compass to help you figure it out. Like I said, I don't understand why these things put out a negative ionic field, all I know is that they do, and you can use this field to charge a jug of drinking water that has a piece of silver in it. (A half gallon milk jug will fit just fine beneath your pyramid, but the hole isn't big enough for a silver eagle; you'd have to use a piece of silver that is smaller around. A 1 oz. bullion bar fits fine.)
I can just about guarantee you that if you charge water and silver together for about 24 hours then drink it you will actually feel the difference in the water as you swallow it. There is an energy to it that is simply not in normal drinking water. I have become convinced that somehow drinking silver ionized water this way balances your body's electrical field and creates a environment where healing takes place.
There are lots of experiments you can try. For instance, you can go to the store, buy one bunch of flowers and divide them in half. Put half the flowers in a vase filled with normal tap water, and half the flowers in a vase filled with silver ionized water. You'll see that the flowers in the ionized silver water last longer. You can go to the store and buy two little starter house plants of the same variety and size. Water one plant with regular tap water and the other with silver ionized water, and you'll soon see which plant grows faster and is healthier. If you've got a dog that is old and has arthritis try putting silver ionized water in his water bowl. Your dog's aches and pains will get better. If you've got a child with ADHD, (which is no fun to live with) try giving that child silver ionized water to drink on a daily basis, and you'll see an improvement in his or her behavior. They get calmer. Some people today are theorizing that our atmosphere today is so filled with positive ions due to the amount of electronic technology all over the planet that people are actually becoming allergic to the very atmosphere and ADHD may be a symptom of that.
The silver imparts an energy that helps reduce just about any kind of viral or bacterial pathogen, while negative ionization balances the body's bio-electric system. For some unfathomable reason, when you put the two together, you produce a condition that promotes healing in a safe and natural way.
There are lots of other ways to experiment with this combination, and I'll tell you some of those things another day.
Have fun with it. This really works, and you will be able to actually see (and feel) the results. I can't explain why it works, but it is really quite amazing…
Oh. I almost forgot. Don't put any base metals inside your tabletop pyramid; they will screw with the negative ions every time. Use only the high metals; silver, gold and copper. The ancients lived by this stuff, and I think maybe they actually knew what they were doing.
The world is a very curious place… Yes it is http://www.livescience.com/health/080821-church-windows.html
hiyosilver
29th September 2008, 02:41
More info here:
http://forums.silverseek.com/showthread.php?t=1187
Kelly
1st October 2008, 08:05
I'm just bumping this up.
Ken J
17th October 2008, 08:34
Kelly
I have a few questions about the pyramid building.
Looking at one side of the pyramid it is just a triangle.
"A - B" is your base (10.5) "C" is the apex (16.989)
1 . Do you measure "C" by finding the centre of "A - B" (5.25) and measuring
at a right angle 16.989. Then drawing two lines from "C - A" and "C - B".
or
2. Do you measure "C" by using a compass set at 16.989 and draw a small
circle at the apex from each of "A" and "B". Where they over lap is your apex. Which means your 16.989 is actually the length of "A - C" and "B - C".
or
3. If you take a straight line from the apex vertically to the base and another line from that point on the base to one side you have a right angle triangle. So if the verticle line is "A" and the base is "B" then the wall (side) of the pyramid is "C". Now "B" is 5.25 (Half 10.5), "A" is (16.989) the apex,
so "C" would be 17.78. Would this not be a more true ratio of base to height.
or
Maybe I've just lost what is left of my sanity and it does not matter these small differences.
Is their any restrictions on what a pyramid can be made out of.
Ken
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cugir321
25th April 2009, 23:15
This is the story of a man named Marcel Vogel. If you read the story without the biographical info you would say it's crazy and untrue. This gentleman worked for IBM as one of their head researchers about 40 some years ago. His experiments scared his co-workers badly. They were metaphysical in nature but proven by science. He is the one that invented the hard drive, flourescent technology, glow markers, etc....
The interesting part that correlates to kelly's pyramid is that, I believe, and I will get a compass to check the angle, his crystals were cut at 52 degrees. I believe this works with the PHI angles. I just realised while reading one of her links, that the crystals could also cause water to remain unfrozen at -30 degrees. Identical to the pyramid experiments.
Read section #9 about water and Vogel cut crystals....read the whole article if you want to be stunned. This man was a respected IBM researcher.
http://www.vogelcrystals.net/legacy_of_marcel_vogel.htm#5
I'm going to try making a pyramid...I want to do some experiments. I really believe the silver negative ion treatment has validity.
I know a lady who was a good friend of Marcel....She has a larger 12 inch crystal he specially cut for her. It's too bazar to go into detail.
If anyone knows where Kelly went, please have her read this....it will explain a lot.
cugir321
26th April 2009, 11:50
very nice spam!!! Thanks for giving us a spam site we can harrass.So nice analysis. Good point.I think you could try runescape (http://www.buyrunescape2.com/)and Maple Story Mesos (http://www.cheapmaplestory.com/).
cugir321
26th April 2009, 12:29
I believe it's easier to just draw a line 10.5 inches long. Measure 16.989 inches from the first line and draw another 10.5 inch line parallel to the first. Connect the sides. This makes a golden rectangle. Split the top line exactly in half with a dot at 5.25 inches. This is the apex of the pyramid. Draw a line from the bottom left hand side of the 10.5 inch line to the apex point. Do the same from the right hand side of the bottom 10.5 inch line to the apex point. This creates the golden triangle. Cut it out!!! Do 4 of them. Tape them together. Done.
Nature is not exact with PHI but it is everywhere....look here and you'll see...music, body's, art, etc....
http://goldennumber.net/
Kelly
I have a few questions about the pyramid building.
Looking at one side of the pyramid it is just a triangle.
"A - B" is your base (10.5) "C" is the apex (16.989)
1 . Do you measure "C" by finding the centre of "A - B" (5.25) and measuring
at a right angle 16.989. Then drawing two lines from "C - A" and "C - B".
or
2. Do you measure "C" by using a compass set at 16.989 and draw a small
circle at the apex from each of "A" and "B". Where they over lap is your apex. Which means your 16.989 is actually the length of "A - C" and "B - C".
or
3. If you take a straight line from the apex vertically to the base and another line from that point on the base to one side you have a right angle triangle. So if the verticle line is "A" and the base is "B" then the wall (side) of the pyramid is "C". Now "B" is 5.25 (Half 10.5), "A" is (16.989) the apex,
so "C" would be 17.78. Would this not be a more true ratio of base to height.
or
Maybe I've just lost what is left of my sanity and it does not matter these small differences.
Is their any restrictions on what a pyramid can be made out of.
Ken
hiyosilver
26th April 2009, 19:49
This is what this thread is supposed to be about. And since swine flu may become a pandemic, the information contained here might very well save some lives........
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkrebaum http://forums.silverseek.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.silverseek.com/showthread.php?p=6918#post6918)
Ionic vs Colloidal, and Nanoparticles
An atom is ionic when it has either gained or lost an electron, acquiring a charge. Table salt (sodium chloride) is an ionic compound. When elemental sodium and chlorine are combined, the sodium atom loses an electron (becomes oxidized) while the chlorine gains an electron (is reduced). The product of this rather spectacular reaction is sodium chloride... along with a lot of heat and light. The mutual attraction of the oppositely charged ions binds the two tightly together, which becomes the crystalline lattice you see as cubic grains of salt. Silver chloride is an ionic compound.
A substance is colloidal when particles of that substance are so small that they will not settle out of solution. Note here that we are talking about discrete particles... they can be seen with the aid of a microscope (either a light microscope or an electron microscope)... we are not talking about individual atoms or ions, such as is table salt when dissolved in water. Colloidal particles are kept suspended by Brownian Motion, which is due to the random thermal movements of the atoms in the solution surrounding the particles.
Many colloidal particles have a tendency to aggregate together into larger particles and settle out over time. Opposite charges on particles (e.g. thru friction) and VanDer Walls forces are operative here. Often the key to a stable colloidal suspension is a stabilizer, which is often a surfactant (detergent) or a water-soluble polymer. These agents surround and "coat" the particles, preventing them from approaching one another too closely and sticking together. Homogenized milk is a colloidal suspension of cream (oil) in skim milk. The protein in the milk acts as the stabilizer.
If you dilute up homogenized milk and shine light through it it has a haziness to it, which is called the Tyndale effect. Basically, the particles are so small that they are around the same wavelength as light and that causes the light to scatter. Or to put it simply, dilute colloidal solutions look milky. This is in contrast to a true solution (salt or sugar dissolved in water).... true solutions are not hazy. True solutions are solutions at the atomic or molecular level.... these species are much too small to scatter light. The upper particle size limit for a colloidal suspension varies, but in general it becomes very difficult if the particle is more than a micron or two in diameter.
Can something which is ionic be colloidal ????
Yes, in fact many are. Silver chloride is ionic. It is also virtually insoluable in water. In fact, chemists assay the silver content of something by dissolving it in nitric acid to form silver nitrate, which is very water soluable. They then add a solution of sodium chloride, which forms soluable sodium nitrate and insoluable silver chloride. By weighing the silver chloride the silver content of the original sample can be computed. Here's the catch.... before you can weigh the silver chloride you have to filter it from the solution, wash it with water, and dry it. The initial precipitate formed upon addition of the sodium chloride is impossible to filter... much of it is colloidal and too small a particle size for filter paper to catch. So, the solution is briefly boiled. The boiling aggregates the colloidal particles into a granular precipitate which is easily filtered. If you omitted the boiling and added a stabilizer you would have a colloidal suspension of ionic silver chloride.
What are nanoparticles ??? What's Nano-Silver ???
Nanoparticles are discrete particles in the nanometer size range. A nanometer is (10)-9 (ten to the negative power of nine) meters, or one billionth of a meter. Remember we mentioned "microns" a few paragraphs ago ? A micron is (10)-6 meter, or a millionth of a meter. A millimeter is (10)-3 meter, one-thousandth of a meter, or about 1/25 inch. There's 1,000 nanometers in a micron, 1,000 microns in a millimeter, 1,000 millimeters in a meter. A human hair might be around 50 microns in diameter.
Some nanoparticles in common use include fumed silica (thickener), carbon black (tires, ink), zinc oxide and titanium dioxide (transparent sunscreens). Micron-sized zinc oxide is used in non-transparent sunscreens and diaper-rash ointment. Ruby-red glass from Medieval times owes its color to gold nanoparticles dispersed within the glass.
Most nanoparticles in use today have a size between 10 and 200 nanometers, or .01 to .2 micron. These particles could have between 20,000 and 200,000,000 atoms in them. Most nanoparticles will quickly agglomerate without some sort of stabilizing or dispersing agent. Because of their extremely high surface area many nanoparticles have very unique physical properties. Bulk Silver, for example, has a melting point in excess of 1700 degrees F., nanosilver particles can melt at under 400 degrees F. One curent application is the printing of conductive circuit traces with nanosilver-based ink, then fusing the particles together into a solid conductor in a simple oven.
Silver nanoparticles are made simply in the lab by mixing silver nitrate solution with sodium citrate and a stabilizer, usually polyacrylic acid (PAA) or polyvinylpyrrolidinone (PVP). It is then warmed on the hotplate overnight and in the morning.... presto...nanosilver ! The size of the nanoparticles produced can be changed by adjusting the experimental conditions. Some of these stabilizers, like PAA, are charged (PAA is acidic), so some confusion may exist about neutral, metallic Silver nanoparticles which are "ionically stabilized" and "ionic silver". The lack of uniform nomenclature, and deliberate obfuscation by some manufacturers, only adds to the confusion.
Silver surfaces are toxic to bacteria and viruses. Nanoparticles have a huge surface area... 15 to 1,500 square meters per gram are common. Ten grams might cover a football field if evenly distributed. Thus nanosilver kills many viruses and bacteria, including HIV, at least in a test tube. How you would use it in a live animal without it attacking the good (host's) cells is currently a topic of hot research.
My personal idea for nanosilver would be to fight an epidemic of bird flu (H5N1) virus, if this virus ever becomes contageous in man. Since this virus primarily exists (and does most of its damage) in the lungs, treatment would consist of putting a dilute solution of silver nanoparticles into an ultrasonic humidifier and breathing the resulting nanosilver fog. You read it here first !!!
cugir321
26th April 2009, 21:11
Does it work? Have you tried it in a real life situation?
hiyosilver
26th April 2009, 23:17
Yes, and very successfully, I might add. But to keep from repeating myself, go to this thread:
http://forums.silverseek.com/showthread.php?t=4497
(and my mother still hasn't had a recurrence since, and I myself usually have 2-3 severe lung infections in a year, which is very dangerous for me since I only have 50% lung capacity. But have had only 1 minor infection since I began using it, and it cleared up in three days. I do not use it for maintenance though. Just when a sign of an infection is evident, but treating sinus infections as soon as they occur probably prevents lung infections that could result later.)
and btw, researching this, (after observing a coworker who never got sick in 3 years), is one of the initial reasons I began investing is silver.
hiyosilver
29th April 2009, 11:03
just bumping up, but I might add, I myself was skeptical about this. I researched nearly 2 years before I actually applied it. Now, I personally believe that if people in mass starting using this stuff that large pharmaceutical companies and health care workers in general would also be seeking alternative lifestyles........likely the reason two large pharmas now are lobbying the FDA against it.....
beach miner
30th April 2009, 03:44
Howdy Q; been a while since I posted. Gettin ready to go Halibut and King Salmon fishing this weekend. I last posted about how good Colloidal Silver is at fighting infections, and Hi Yo mentioned the banning of it, so I ordered a gallon from my favorite producer---Colloids for life. com it cost about $250 but is well worth it---it literally saved my life twice. Stuff lasts indefinately as long as it doesn't freeze, and direct sunlight isn't good for it either. Don't know what to make of the Pandemic, the numbers just aren't there. I got some mining claims in Northwest Alaska, and not to far from them is the graveyard of a small native village that was wiped out by the Spanish Flu of 1918, it still blows my mind that it reached all the way up here way back when with such devistation. I had Phnemonia real bad a couple of years ago, and no antibotic would cure it. Winter was comming on, and I new I wouldn't make it, so I went on line and found out about Colloidal silver, bought it, and it worked like a miracle. If this Pandemic does take off, and they ban Colloidal Silver, it will be just another stupid thing they have done to the average citizen from letting them enjoy, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. God Bless You All, and See Ya At The Top.
hiyosilver
11th May 2009, 02:04
bump it up
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