Diversion

[Biggman]

I just read about our wonderful Mr. Paulson and crew sending $800 billion in Ameros to China. I won't post it here, but you can google it. There are links to the article on the Ron Paul sites too. But anyway, if it is indeed true, and I'm not doubting it, could this mean that the $700b bailout is maybe more of a diversionary tactic (even if unintentional) to keep our focus from the really really big stuff going on? Just a thought persuing through me head.

Oh yeah.......newguy here......Hello everyone!

[Kelly]

I seriously doubt if "diversion" is the correct word. If the story is true about the pay off to China, then Paulsen's statement that he would veto the Bailout Bill, should it be changed to contain language defining that the aide only go to firms on USA soil is significant.

The whole dang thing may be a payoff to China.

It is entirely possible, though still remains to be proven, that China may have indeed called in their debt.

We need to research this.

And welcome to the forum, Biggman.

[Kelly]

Here is a link to that story

http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2008/10/us-ships-800-billion-ameros-to-china.html

It's posted on the Hal Turner website, and it remains to be seen if he is a reliable source.

[FedFixNix]

I join Kelly in the welcome, and the caution. I have long known the Amero was part of the NWO economic plan. It's real. It's coming, and far worse than just the Amero. The Samero, Afero, and Globalo are all in line... steps along the way.

The only possible way to stop it, and reclaim government for, of, and by the people is ... TA DA... MY CONSTANT THEME.... MONETARY REFORM!

Every day you resist getting on board this grass roots movement will only allow the noose to tighten around our necks. Your children will not escape the consequences of ignorance or inaction, and especially wrong action.

If true, this is huge. It may not yet be true, or not. I just don't know. Here is one source and claims the info comes from anonymous sources.. of course.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1148.htm

What I do know is that we are being stampeded over a cliff like lemmings. The conspiracies at work here are real, life-changing, historical, and of unimagined proportions.

What we need is grassroots community action, and now. We need education and information of the best kind. We need government and economic reforms... NOW! We need thoughtful, peaceful action... NOW!

We need to write letters... NOW!

Tomorrow may well be too late.

[Kelly]

Nixie! Welcome back, old buddy, old pal.

People on the forum have been writting letters like mad for days. But I've been trying all morning to send e-mails off to my senators and reps, and NOTHING is getting through! I've gone to just about every contact source I can think of, AND NO E-MAILS ARE GETTING THROUGH AT ALL!

I've posted a phone number to the capital too, but I can't get through there either.

I'm about ready to have a freaking nervous breakdown!

Jeeze man, I am so scared they are going to railroad this damn thing through. It's all over if they do...

[Kelly]

Nixie, here is another source for the China story too.

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/a...e-Bailout.html

Congressman Brad Sherman mentioned the money going to foreign people last night on CNN too.

[Tribal Warrior]

This may very well be true. Reform after a bailout sounds like U.S. congress/Feds to me.

The American people would like it the other way, Reform first, then if needed bailout. Why didn't Congress/Feds have meetings last year to reform the mortgage industry and monetary issues when they first started hitting in Feb.07??

This bailout, which is now $800bln with added 'junk' tax incentives, is going to cause outragoues inflation like this past summer.

So the articles about $800bln Ameros being sent to China would equal the same amount of this bailout,,,hmmm

[Kelly]

I don't know about that Sorcha Faal website. I checked out her stuff this morning and thought she looks real iffy and I don't trust her stuff at all. Same thing with Hal Turner; he doesn't have the best reputation in the world either.

[Kelly]

Look at it this way...

If you add the 800 billion in the China rumor to the 700 billion in the Bailout scam, to the 630 billion the Fed supposedly released yesterday, you're coming reasonably close to what we owe China in national debt.

We've talked about China calling in their loans before. We all know it's a possibility.

[FedFixNix]

I don't know about that Sorcha Faal website. I checked out her stuff this morning and thought she looks real iffy and I don't trust her stuff at all. Same thing with Hal Turner; he doesn't have the best reputation in the world either.

Hi Kelly,

You need to take some time to sleep and relax. One person can only do so much, and no more. I sent you those books, btw.

I don't "trust" any single source except God, and then I have to verify the message. ;)

However, something along these lines would NOT surprise me at all. I am expecting it, and worse.

Back to less "diversionary" matters....

[MikeJ]

The American people won't stand for this. You'll see A LOT of angry people who will want anarchy.

[mick silver]

last time i look china have over 3 tillion own to them

[Kelly]

Yep. And if China called in our debt behind closed doors, and all this nightmare of money is going to pay them off, then we are only about 2/3 of the way there.

As far as I am concerned though, it still qualifies as rumor. We need to establish far better sources for the China information than I've seen today. If it's real, the watchdogs will find out about it. I just caution that nobody should accept it as truth until far more qualified people present better evidence.

And if it's true, qualified people WILL track it down. They always do. We've got a pretty good People's Intelligence Agency (that's PIA not CIA) going for us these days.

[mick silver]

your right kelly , if this was to happen so many people would be all over this, i could see this country going broke and not paying it debt off