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Kelly
1st October 2008, 00:31
In spite of understanding Balou's rant, this time is TOO IMPORTANT, and it's no time to stop discussing this bailout or writting Washington DC. The next few days are simply too critical.

The best news to date is that Peter Defazio, (D, Ore) House of Representatives, is officially introducing The No Bailouts Act tomorrow in a press conference.

This, in my estimation, may be the best, and certainly the most immediate chance we have of preventing Paulsen's Bailout Bill. Please read through it, then if you agree with his proposal, write your Senators and Representatives telling them that you support Defazio's No Bailouts Act.

http://www.defazio.house.gov/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=441

The House of Representatives rejected the $700 bailout yesterday. Distinguished economists across the world have stated it would not have solved the problem at hand. However, we can potentially solve this liquidity problem at little cost to the taxpayer. I am proposing that Congress drop the Paulson Plan, and instead pass the No BAILOUTS Act. The No BAILOUTS Act provides an alternative to the Paulson Proposal to address the current credit crunch. Once Congress addresses the liquidity shortfalls in our financial markets, a Democratic Congress can turn to Democratic solutions to address the broader economic crises we face today. Specifically, Congress can work to resolve the housing crisis across the country and pass effective job stimulus, which is the response Main Street America expects and deserves.

While Democrats and Republicans may disagree on the underlying solutions to solve the economic crises we face, the No BAILOUTS Act - a regulatory based proposal - has the potential for significant bipartisan support.

The Paulson Premise Flawed

Simon Johnson, a former chief economist as the International Monetary Fund, stated today in the New York Times of Paulson’s plan, “It’s our view that this package, in a fundamental sense, will not solve the problem.” Other economic analysts noted yesterday that the credit markets around the world were almost entirely dysfunctional even when political leaders and investors assumed that Congress had reached a deal and would easily approve the bailout. There is no reason to believe Paulson’s plan will work.

Alternatives

We have credible alternatives to the Paulson/Bush $700 billion gamble. William Isaac, the chairman of the FDIC during the previous worst financial crisis in the United States during the 1980s, believes Congress can address the current crisis with simple changes to Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) rules. Mr. Isaac points out that while we face serious financial challenges today, many banks are still in good shape. This allows Congress to take swift, uncomplicated steps to ensure the financial markets return to working order. After that, we can work to resolve the housing crisis and pass effective job stimulus.

Today I am offering an alternative to the Wall Street bailout that will correct the capital shortfalls experienced by many financial institutions and help protect the integrity and quality of the securities market. My plan could be implemented promptly meeting the demands of the Bush Administration to act immediately without putting the American taxpayer on the hook for billions of dollars.

No BAILOUTS Act


Bringing Accounting, Increased Liquidity, Oversight and Upholding Taxpayer Security

1) Require the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to require an economic value standard to measure the capital of financial institutions.

This bill will require SEC to implement a rule to suspend the application of fair value accounting standards to financial institutions, which marks assets to the market value, no matter the conditions of the market. When no meaningful market exists, as is the current market for mortgage backed securities, this standard requires institutions to value assets at fire-sale prices. This creates a capital shortfall on paper. Using the economic value standard as bank examines have traditionally done will immediately correct the capital shortfalls experienced by many institutions.

2) Require the Securities and Exchange Commission to restricting naked short sells permanently

This bill will require SEC to implement a rule that blocks naked selling, selling a stock short without first borrowing the shares or ensuring the shares can be borrowed. Such practices many times harm the companies represented in the sales and hurt their efforts to raise capital. There is no economic value produced by naked short sales, but significant negative effects.

3) Require the Securities and Exchange Commission to restore the up-tick rule permanently.

This bill will require SEC to implement a rule that blocks short sales without an up-tick in the market. On September 19, 2008, the SEC approved a temporary pause of short selling in financial companies “to protect the integrity and quality of the securities market and strengthen investor confidence.” This rule prevents market crashes brought on by irrational short term market behavior.

4) “Net Worth Certificate Program”

This bill will require FDIC to implement a net worth certificate program. The FDIC would determine banks with short-term capital needs and the ability to financially recover in the foreseeable future. For those entities that qualify, the FDIC should purchase net worth certificates in these institutions. In exchange, these institutions issue promissory notes to repay the FDIC, counting the amount “borrowed” as capital on their balance sheets. This exchange provides short term capital, with not cash outlay. Interest rates on the certificates and the FDIC notes should be identical so no subsidy is necessary.

Participating banks must be subject to strict oversight by the FDIC including oversight of top executive compensation and if necessary the removal of poor management. Financial records and business plans should be subject to scrutiny while participating in the program.

In 1982, Congress approved a program, known as the Net Worth Certificate Program, that allowed banks and thrifts to apply for immediate capital assistance. From 1982 to 1993, banks with total assets of $40 billion participated in the program. The majority of these banks, 75%, required no further assistance beyond the certificate program.

5) Increase the FDIC Insurance limit from $100,000 to $250,000.

The bill will require the FDIC raise its limit to provide depositors confidence that their money is safe and help eliminate runs on banks which are destabilizing to the industry.

Sincerely

Peter DeFazio
Member of Congress

Kelly
1st October 2008, 01:41
I honestly believe that the above steps will increase liquidity in the markets at no cost to the taxpayer. The No Bailouts Act grants the Secretary Treasurer and Federal Reserve no additional powers, and I am all for that one! The proposed legislation eliminates naked short selling and re-establishes the uptick rule that used to prevent manipulators from taking a viable stock all the way down to the ground in a matter of hours.

This act will not provide all the answers; for instance, we are in desperate need of a complete overhaul of the derivatives market and obviously, far stricter regulations need to be in place there.

However, I do believe the No Bailouts Act introduces important measures to increase market liquidity, while the measures to stop naked short selling and the reenactment of the uptick rule will prevent bank hedge fund manipulators from simply destroying their competitors with the kind of unfair, naked short selling that utterly destroyed both Bear Stearns and WaMu among others. At the same time, by once again establishing the "economic values standard," banks like JPMorgan Chase will be prevented from eating their competition by being able to purchase competing banks at dirt cheap, fire sale prices once their stock values had been reduced to nothing by naked short sell manipulation.

Though DeFazio worded the No Bailouts Act in a neutral bipartisan language designed to offend no one, DeFazio is no fool. In my estimation, this Act was specifically designed to prevent the takeover and consolidation of the banking and investment industry into fewer and fewer hands of the global elite.

The entire Paulsen Bailout Bill just voted down in the House of Representatives would have given banks like JPMorgan Chase (who owns a considerable part of the Federal Reserve Bank, not to mention holds nearly 50% of all the derivatives ever written) a free run to take over and control this nation's entire banking industry.

Please folks, write your Senators and Congresspeople today, and tell them you are in total support of DaFazios' No Bailouts Act!

I firmly believe this act will grant us the time we need to restructure and rethink laws governing the banking, mortgage and investment industry. We need to carefully think out monetary reforms and regulations, and this act is designed to buy us the time we need to do that.

Kelly
1st October 2008, 06:29
I guess I'm going to forget about sleeping. No time for it.

Most of you have probably never heard of Peter DeFazio, but for a bald little guy with big ears and glasses, this guy really packs a punch with a wallop. He's been one of the most outspoken members of congress against the Paulsen Bailout plan, and to date, he is the only member of the House who has written a piece of legislation designed to replace it, and that legislation is ready now! This legislation was written with the help of Congresswoman Kaptor, and we all saw her in action as she spoke out with guts and righteous anger against the Paulsen Bailout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32ds

You know as well as I do that Washington DC is just itching to do something to solve the present economic crisis, but if you ask me, rushing into the Paulsen Bailout Plan qualifies as the stupidest and most dangerous thing they could do. There is no way to pretty it up or tweak it; it was a bad piece of legislation to begin with. DeFazio's No Bailouts Act beats the Paulsen Bailout Plan hands down. He's buying us all time to look at the problem and figure out a better solution. Please, please, please write your senators and congresspeople and tell them you support the NO BAILOUTS ACT!

Remember folks, the Bush-Paulsen-CFR groupies in the Senate have attached the Paulsen Bailout Plan as a rider to a popular piece of existing legislation and it's going to be voted on today! They are up to their usual dirty tricks. Write your senators and tell them "No". Tell them they'd better support the No Bailouts Act, or you are going to fire their asses the next time they come up for reelection! Tell them we will NOT forget who votes for Paulsen's Bail out Plan.

Now, let me introduce you to the man who wrote the No Bailouts Act. Here's Pete Defazio in action!

DeFazio speaking out against the Paulsen Bailout Plan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANGsBNMY1_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3H1CaX91oY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5QQ0wOGaU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8-YcPJdUNw

On Martial Law (He sits on the Homeland Security Council)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByoqZqDGaA

On what is happening to Social Security and why it's gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ErdU8Ck8g

And he's real; he even uses the F word!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62N2oKo2CNw

nayoibi
1st October 2008, 08:22
Banksters should bail out banksters ! They are the only ones left with jobs, money , homes and a future. Why should the overburdened taxpayer bail them out , they are just barely and not really American companies. Their tentacles are international . Every company that could ,has bailed on us and they took our Clydsdales with them , even the vice president's company jumped our sinking ship. We have been 'outsourced' into oblivion and the banksters should follow the outsourcers down into the hell of their own making. They built the bed , they shouldn't object to sleeping in it. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that these banks are not really failing , they are merging and not all that unhappy about it. Enough evidence to warrant an investigation into their fraudulent and reckless acts. Bail them out , george, you have enough money to handle it and while you are at it - use your deep pockets to rebuild Iraq=YOU BROKE IT !!

mick silver
1st October 2008, 10:58
give back the all the false money the ceo made would be a start

One_of_Many
1st October 2008, 11:04
[QUOTE=Kelly;13800]



Remember folks, the Bush-Paulsen-CFR groupies in the Senate have attached the Paulsen Bailout Plan as a rider to a popular piece of existing legislation and it's going to be voted on today! They are up to their usual dirty tricks. Write your senators and tell them "No". Tell them they'd better support the No Bailouts Act, or you are going to fire their asses the next time they come up for reelection! Tell them we will NOT forget who votes for Paulsen's Bail out Plan.

Thanks for posting this Kelly. I hadn't heard of the No Bailouts Act proposal. You are a wealth of info! Get some sleep and dont run yourself into the ground. We needs ya!

Kelly
1st October 2008, 13:03
If the e-mail accounts of your senators and representitives are down, keep trying! In the meantime FLOOD THE CAPITAL SWITCHBOARD WITH CALLS! 1-202-224-3121

Keep fighting, Don't let this bailout bill go through!

research24
1st October 2008, 15:52
I give up. They don't give a hoot what you or I think, they are going to pass this legalized theft regardless. Having sent out over 30 emails on the first go-around, then to have something worse reappear is enough to realize that its hopeless.

Kelly
1st October 2008, 15:57
No! You can't give up. The Senate may be near hopeless; I don't know. But there is significant opposition to the bailout bill in the House of Representatives. Unless they pass this nightmare too, it doesn't become law.

Don't give up! Please! We won the first round. The Senate is the second round. Then it's back to the House of Representitives again.

We haven't lost this thing yet! Best time to try e-mails and more calls is probably the middle of the night though.

This is just the way politics work in this day and age. You've got to keep trying. Please?

mick silver
1st October 2008, 16:08
any one have the link for all congress an senatoe number

Kelly
1st October 2008, 16:12
Here is the number for the capital switchboard 1-202-224-3121.

The best site I've found to date for sending emails is congress.org. However, they mail off anything you run through them (it's easy) which goes to the senators and represtitives at the .gov site. And it is the bloody .gov site that is shut down, out of band width, or being flooded with too much mail.

Try the wee hours of the morning or late at night. I haven't been able to get through all day.

mick silver
1st October 2008, 16:28
THANKS KELLY i just posted all the number , dam i forgot were i put all the stuff on my computer oh the page i just put on here has the email also

Tribal Warrior
1st October 2008, 17:00
I doubt one day will make a difference, why didn't he bring that out weeks ago?

Senate votes tonight, then house on friday. I think it'll pass, then we can all hunt down Paulson to have a chat with him.

If it doesn't pass, then friday's close will be worse than mondays. you thought 777 was bad, wait and see if it passes.

Also if it passes, I see the Dollar weakening dramatically as people not only flood out of cash back into equities, but also the injection of money from the Feds would lower it back towards 70, or lower after all money is injected.

God Bless All of Yall,
These forums are great, it's glad to come to every night to read some true news.

mick silver
1st October 2008, 17:07
let the bank go and borrow fron the cental banks

Kelly
1st October 2008, 17:15
Folks, Congress.org is working and you can get your e-mails through! It's easy. Also, you can go here and sign a No Bailout Petition.

http://nowallstreetbailout.com/?_kk=&_kt=3b9f0ad5-156e-4552-a856-b098d9692f65

Don't give up! It's your country! It doesn't belong to Wall Street!

averagejoe
1st October 2008, 17:16
Awesome posts Kelly! People she is right keep calling and keep E-mailing it does work if we stick together. When they think their cash cow jobs may be in jepardy I gaurantee you it perks their ears up and they listen!

FedFixNix
1st October 2008, 23:53
Folks, Congress.org is working and you can get your e-mails through! It's easy. Also, you can go here and sign a No Bailout Petition.

http://nowallstreetbailout.com/?_kk=&_kt=3b9f0ad5-156e-4552-a856-b098d9692f65

Don't give up! It's your country! It doesn't belong to Wall Street!

Good work Kelly. Our country doesn't belong to Wall Street... YET. But they are working on it. The American People will always own their labor and productivity, and can redesign a monetary system that serves the people rather than leeches off them like tapeworms.

No Bailout. Just money reform.

Kelly
2nd October 2008, 11:06
Okay folks, I went through today's videos to try to bring you up to date. Remember, the bailout bill in not a done deal yet. It still has to get through the House of Representatives. In my opinion, DeFazio's alternative "No Bailout Act" stands the best chance of convincing congress to vote no on the Paulsen Bailout.

So I am bringing you up to date on the No Bailout Act…

CNN – Defazio and Kaptur reveal the No Bailouts Act

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpbQ9z9GyBc


Congressman Defazio will present No Bailouts Act before House today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKEbQhc3SD4


Kucinich sites Defazio's No Bailouts Act and approves!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr1g8r4Fi4U


Congressman Brad Sherman – Money going to Bail out Foreign Investors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7BgPKkHzfs


Economist Dean Baker on the Bailout Panic – This is a must see!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfR_gPzTMnk


Kill Bill! Volume 1 - John Stewart does it again! If you've got the Bailout Blues, you've just gotta laugh now and then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFFJfd0RtSo


To reach your federal legislators, you can just call the U.S. Capitol Switchboard (the phone number is (202) 224-3121 locally or toll-free 1-800-962-3524 nationally) and ask for a particular legislator or committee.

research24
2nd October 2008, 11:19
No! You can't give up. The Senate may be near hopeless; I don't know. But there is significant opposition to the bailout bill in the House of Representatives. Unless they pass this nightmare too, it doesn't become law.

Don't give up! Please! We won the first round. The Senate is the second round. Then it's back to the House of Representitives again.

We haven't lost this thing yet! Best time to try e-mails and more calls is probably the middle of the night though.

This is just the way politics work in this day and age. You've got to keep trying. Please?

Kelly, I've been fighting this all my life. We are just pawns to these people. They're going to destroy the nation no matter what you do. They are simply too far gone.

I, for one, welcome the coming collapse as it is the only opportunity to straighten things out. We can only hope that it doesn't lead to too much bloodshed, but it probably will. As a nation we are completely Balkanized and brainwashed into socialism. This won't stop until there is nothing left to socialize, i.e. there is no one left from whom they can borrow money. That days is coming very soon. Be of good cheer and welcome the new dawn.

Kelly
2nd October 2008, 11:30
I, for one, welcome the coming collapse as it is the only opportunity to straighten things out.

There are ways to collapse the present control system without sacrificing the lives of the people.

DeFazio's No Bailout Act works to take the power away from the Bush-Paulsen-Bernanke Fed cartel.

If you want to sit on your ass and do nothing, that's your perogative. I'm working at this because I know exactly what the Paulsen Bailout bill is going to do to people everywhere.

I don't personally have a hell of a lot of respect for your attitude, particularly since your attitude doesn't seem to give a crap about the well-being of my grandchildren and children everywhere.

Kelly
2nd October 2008, 11:56
I don't know if any of you actually understand the REAL threat in the Paulsen Bailout Bill yet. Go back and watch this video again until it sinks in…

Congressman Brad Sherman – Money going to Bail out Foreign Investors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7BgPKkHzfs

What this means is that if a bank in China, Switzerland, France or Germany (etc.) happens to have a branch in the United States of America, (and they all do) those banks can TRANSFER their debt to their branch in the USA and Paulsen will gleefully make you pay for it. In fact, Paulsen specifically said that if a clause was introduced into the bill that demanded that only American owned institutions would be helped, he would personally veto the bill. So figure it out!!!

You aren't being asked to bail out Wall Street folks. The Paulsen Bailout Bill effectively transfers the bad debt held by every bank in every country in the world onto the backs of the American taxpayer!!!!

Now, please get up off your butts and CALL OR EMAIL YOUR CONGRESSMAN IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTITIVES!

It's YOUR future you ought to be worried about!!!