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silversurfer1
23rd March 2010, 19:12
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ajwSWE6H1kHM

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100323/capt.271f90af39f643a8952210fa6e504446-271f90af39f643a8952210fa6e504446-0.jpg?x=400&y=282&q=85&sig=Mu23NbN_fiRqIadzuLVD9A--

JCM6395
23rd March 2010, 19:16
That is why they are all in the process or preparing to sue the government.

tim
23rd March 2010, 19:23
this issue on healthcare ...........lets debate the parts.... the principle of it many dont realize they argue the procedures............ lets talk what took place ... GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER OF HEALTHCARE...IT WAS VOTED BY THE GOVERNMENT, THAT IT WILL BE BEST TO ALLOW THE RATIONING OF HCARE THRU GOV. CONTROLS AND OVERSIGHT.

NOT DISCUSSED WAS HOW TO LET IT REMAIN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND LET FREE PEOPLE TO RATION THEIR BUDGETS AND INCENTIVISE OTHERS TO OFFER SOLUTIONS TO THEIR HEALTH NEEDS.

AT 3000 PAGES IT WILL BE CERTAIN THAT THIS HEALTH CARE BILL WILL GROW TO OVER 20000 PAGES SHORTLY, FULL OF CREDITS, KICBACKS/ PAGES TO FILL OUT FOR CERTAIN CONDITIONS TO RECIEVE EXTRA FUNDS/ OF COURSE ALL THIS ADDED TO BY CORP LOBBYISTS TO LOCK IN A MONOPOLY OF CASH FLOW

TO THE SUPPORTERS OF THIS BILL I ASK YOU..... WHAT WILL STOP IT FROM BECOMING LIKE THE IRS OF YOUR LIFE??

What is Truth?
23rd March 2010, 19:25
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2005-07-04-health-insurance-usat_x.htm


'It's a conservative idea," says Romney, "insisting that individuals have responsibility for their own health care. I think it appeals to people on both sides of the aisle: insurance for everyone without a tax increase."

Supporters of what is called an individual mandate say requiring coverage is a good way to reduce the number of uninsured as well as spread risks and costs, possibly helping lower health insurance premium growth.'

What is Truth?
23rd March 2010, 19:33
So what are you going to do about it?

Not get sick for starters. :D

jcr08
24th March 2010, 02:21
i was discussing health care with someone and saying how all this spending will inflate the currency and possibly bring on a depression. And they said to me

"If FDR had purchased all those ships, tanks, airplanes, food stuffs, uniforms, etc., everything needed for the war, but never fired a shot, blew up a tank, sank a ship - it would still have ended the Depression. FDR could have taken all the products the govt purchased and thrown them down a giant hole and it still would have ended the Depression."

"govt raising taxes on the rich and using the money to purchase goods and services - health care for the 30 million people without it, for example - is the ONLY proven way to get out of a Depression."

I live in australia so my americian history is not very good is this true? My view is that america had a productive capacity back then, so they were spending to create jobs. But now spending on health care isn't creating any jobs im aware of how will that solve americas problems. I cant see them raising tax anytime soon, so they are spending china's money and not creating jobs

Katwoman
24th March 2010, 04:19
Spending money on health care will create more jobs for nurses and doctors but these people take many years to train and even once trained these are service jobs not production jobs that actually add to the GDP without more fuzzy math.

The United States economy is in the beginning of a downward spiral. There is no stopping it but just forestalling it. The government knows this and healthcare reform is just an effort to make sure the government has a way to keep all the unemployed people healthy in an effort to stave of the riots while the economy collapses.

duneyman jr
24th March 2010, 05:14
Reagan even said that medicare was socialismn...this is like a rewind in history where media now blows things up...internet and all that...

silversurfer1
24th March 2010, 06:13
Spending money on health care will create more jobs for nurses and doctors but these people take many years to train and even once trained these are service jobs not production jobs that actually add to the GDP without more fuzzy math.

The United States economy is in the beginning of a downward spiral. There is no stopping it but just forestalling it. The government knows this and healthcare reform is just an effort to make sure the government has a way to keep all the unemployed people healthy in an effort to stave of the riots while the economy collapses.

Damn good poing Kat - am in 100% agreement with you on that.